ConferenceCall 2006 08 03

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-08-03    (OUC)

Conference Call Details    (OUD)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-08-03    (OUE)

• Date: Thursday, Aug. 3, 2006    (OUF)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC World Clock    (OUG)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 hour    (OUH)
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa)    (OUI)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (OUJ)

• Agenda Comments:    (OUK)
  • please post any suggested agenda items (under "Agenda Ideas" below) to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (OUL)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (OUM)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (OUN)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (OUO)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_08_03    (OUP)

Attendees    (OUQ)

• Attended:    (OUR)
  • RexBrooks (may have to leave early)    (P2W)
  • PeterYim    (OUT)
  • KurtConrad    (P70)
  • BobSmith    (P09)
  • DougHolmes    (OZ8)
  • SteveRay    (P71)

• Expecting:    (OUS)
  • TatianaMalyuta    (P2F)
  • DeniseBedford (will make best effort to join)    (P2X)
  • ...(add your name here)...    (OUU)

• Regrets:    (OUV)
  • EMichaelMaximilien (combination of conferences and vacations keeping me out of the loop ... will try to call in in a 3 or 4 weeks)    (OZ9)
  • JackPark    (OZA)
  • MatthewWest    (P0A)
  • BillJarrold (provided input to the 2006.07.23 workshop postmortem)    (P2G)
  • FrankMcCabe    (P7I)

Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion)    (OUW)

• postmortem on the OntologWorkshop_July_2006 and Face-to-Face event(s)    (OUX)
• postmortem of the "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" series of events - ref: OntologizingOntolog    (OUY)
• upcoming scheduled event planning & discussion    (OUZ)
• ...(add suggested items here)...    (OV0)

Agenda & Proceedings    (OV1)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (OV2)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (OV3)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (OV4)

• PeterYim volunteered    (OV5)

3) Roll-call of participants    (OV6)

• see above    (OV7)

• Welcome new Ontolog members:    (OZB)
  • new [ontolog-forum] subscribers:    (OZP)
    • PatHayes (Florida IHMC)    (OZC)
    • GaryBrown (from Micronesia)    (OZU)
    • JimDisbrow (DoE, US) - through PatHeinig's introduction    (OZD)
    • MarcelVanMackelenbergh (Be Value, Netherlands)    (OZE)
    • DavidDecraene (Language and Computing, UK)    (OZF)
    • NabonitaGuha (Indian Statistical Institute, Bangalore, India)    (OZG)
    • CatherineForsman (ethnographer, from New York)    (P2I)
  • joining the community after participating at our 2006.07.23 F2F workshop at Stanford    (OZH)
    • BillJarrold (SRI, AI Center)    (OZI)
    • FrankMcCabe    (OZJ)
    • DougHolmes (Java Professionals)    (OZK)
    • ZhanjunLi (Purdue University)    (OZL)
    • TatianaMalyuta (City University of New York)    (OZM)
    • AlexSeregin (Meta Formula, Russia)    (OZN)
    • RaphaelIsokpehi (Jackson State University)    (OZO)
    • JoelMiller (Amgen)    (OZV)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (OV8)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events:    (OV9)
  • Thu 2006.08.10 - SOA Panel Discussion (covering SOA-RM & SOA-RA) - Organizers (Moderator): DuaneNickull & RexBrooks - Panelists: RonSchmelzer (Zapthink), KenLaskey (MITRE) & RebekahMetz (BAH) - see: ConferenceCall_2006_08_10    (OVA)
  • Thu 2006.08.17 - YorkSure - "What does Sparkling Wine have to do with Semantics?" - see: ConferenceCall_2006_08_17    (P2Y)
    • YorkSure from University Of Karlsruhe, Germany (who is currently visiting at Stanford Medical Inforamtics) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-07/msg00037.html#nid05    (OVB)
  • Thu 2006.08.31 - Ontology Applications in Emergency Response Panel Discussion - Organizers (Moderator): RexBrooks & BobSmith    (OVC)

• Other upcoming events of interest:    (OVD)
  • August 15, 2006, Tuesday - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #53, at NSF (Arlington, Virginia, USA; with remote attendance support) - "Open Collaboration: Networking Semantic Interoperability Across Distributed Organizations and Their Ontologies" - see: ColabWiki:ExpeditionWorkshop/OpenCollaboration_NetworkingSemanticInteroperability_2006_08_15    (OVE)
  • September 19, 2006, Tuesday - Collaborative Expedition Workshop #54, at NSF (Arlington, Virginia, USA; with remote attendance support) - "Open Collaboration: Networking Financial Management Communities to Advance Information-Sharing and Best Practices for Business Performance Excellence" - see: ColabWiki:ExpeditionWorkshop/OpenCollaboration_NetworkingSemanticInteroperability_2006_08_15    (OVF)
  • October 10-11, 2006 - Fifth Semantic Interoperability for E-Government Conference, at MITRE (McLean, Virginia, USA) - see: ColabWiki:FifthSemanticInteroperabilityforEGovernmentConference_2006_10_1011    (OVG)
  • November 5-9, 2006 - ISWC2006: The 5th International Semantic Web Conference, at Athens, Georgia, USA - see: http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/    (P7M)
    • November 6, 2006 - SWESE06: 2nd Workshop on Semantic Web Enabled Software Engineering, at Athens, Georgia, USA (co-located with ISWC2006 lised above) - see: http://km.aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de/ws/swese2006    (P7N)
    • November 5 or 6, 2006 - Workshop for W3C Semantic Web Health Care & Life Sciences, at Athens, Georgia, USA (co-located with ISWC2006 lised above) - see: http://esw.w3.org/topic/HCLS/ISWC/Workshop    (P7O)
    • November 5 / 6, 2006 - URSW: workshop on Uncertainty Reasoning for the Semantic Web, at Athens, Georgia, USA (co-located with ISWC2006 lised above) - see: http://www.iet.com/iswc/2006/ursw/    (P7P)
  • November 6-9, 2006 - OIS-2006: First International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards, at Tucson, Arizona, USA - Co-located with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006) - see: http://events.deri.at/ois2006/    (OVH)
  • October 30-31, 2006 - 2nd Service Oriented Architecture for E-government Conference, at MITRE (McLean, Virginia, USA) - see: ColabWiki:SOAforEGovernment_2006_10_3031    (OVI)
  • November 9-11, 2006 - FOIS-2006: International Conference on Formal Ontology in Information Systems, at Johns Hopkins University ( Baltimore, Maryland, USA) - see: http://www.formalontology.org/fois-2006/fois-2006.htm/    (OVJ)
  • November 9, 2006, 8:00pm EST, Thursday - Second Plenary Meeting of the National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR), at Johns Hopkins University, Ballroom - Co-located with the FOIS-2006.    (OVK)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (OVL)

• Peter solicits project team members to use the mailing list (archived forum) so that we have a more transparent process in the project development.    (P72)

• Rex will be posting the notes from the interactive portion of the 2006.07.23 workshop over the coming weekend.    (P73)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (OVM)

• postmortem on the OntologWorkshop_July_2006 and Face-to-Face event(s)    (OVN)
  • vote of thanks to the Organizing Committee: BobSmith, KurtConrad and RexBrooks for a job well done!    (OVO)
  • what was good about it    (OVP)
    • Doug: was there at the first half; thought it was very good    (P74)
  • what can be improved    (OVQ)
    • assure venue/facility suport all necessary speaker needs    (P75)
    • formal ontological approaches were not as well represented as the natural and informal ontology contingent    (P76)
  • what would we do differently the next time    (OVR)
    • consider: less formal bird-of-a-feather type gathering; or local beer-and-pretzel gatherings on a local basis    (P79)
    • having to pay to attend did pose a barrier    (P7A)
  • discussion    (OVS)
    • Input from BillJarrold (2006.08.02): General feedback was it went fine. The priorities ranking discussion was a little difficult...it felt akin to asking a question like "What is more important to humans, eating fruit or eating vegetables?" Answer: they are both essential. It was good that we weren't rushed. There was a good amount of time to exchange ideas -- this is often not the case in different conferences. I really liked the open ended session at the end where we went around and described what people were working on. That is one specific example of how more time to exchange ideas was good. Thanks, Bill / Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:00:39 -0700 & Thu, 3 Aug 2006 11:37 -0700    (P2H)
  • follow-ups    (OYB)
    • Steve: we explored doing a remote, but wasn't able to put that together quickly (but that turned out to be a blessing in disguise)    (P77)
      • Steve / Peter: will set out an Ontolog-NIST joint call session to plan it out    (P78)
    • audio archives ETA (Kurt)    (OYC)

• postmortem of the "Ontologizing the Ontolog Body of Knowledge" series of events - ref: OntologizingOntolog    (OVT)
  • what was good about it    (OVU)
  • what can be improved    (OVV)
    • Peter: still hope we can have more projects going    (P7B)
  • follow-up plan and action    (OVW)
    • will schedule this for some other time    (P7D)
  • discussion    (OVX)

• Engaging UN/CEFACT    (OVY)
  • Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion    (OVZ)
    • will need to follow-up with BillMcCarthy & AndersTell    (OW0)
    • Rex: there will be a joint OASIS-ITU conference in Oct. 2006 (UN/CEFACT & ebXML is related somehow)    (OW1)

• Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards - this item was missed during our 2006.06.22 call    (OW2)
  • this is exactly what we said we'll strive to do on our charter! - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB    (OW3)
  • November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006)    (OW4)
  • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/    (OW5)
  • EMichaelMaximilien is in contact with some of these people ... he can help relay questions if we have any    (OW6)
  • conflict with 5th International Semantic Web Conference (same week, but in Athens, Georgia)    (OW7)
  • abstract deadline is May 1, 2006 (so we still have some time to get organized if we want to really do something)    (OW8)
  • this is definitely relevant to us ... let's think things over and come back for more discussion at the next call    (OW9)
  • KurtConrad (2006.08.03): suggest that maybe we can track down the organizers and liaise with them to see if there is any collaboration potentials -- volunteer to take on this task solicited!    (OWA)
  • given LeoObrst & BobSmith's recent reference to DERI work (see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-06/msg00011.html) and OIS2006 - let's re-open discussion on possibilities    (OWB)
  • PeterYim (new! 2006.08.02) - I noticed that YorkSure is on their Program Committee - see: http://events.deri.at/ois2006/#6    (OWC)
    • Let's ping him (York) about it when he speaks on 8/17    (P7F)
    • we should at least make Ontolog's presence know    (P7G)

7) Current Project Status Report    (OWD)

• Status CctRepresentation and UblOntology project work    (OWE)
  • Steve: some people (like EvanWallace) at NIST are working on ebXML and use of ebXML registry, they would be interested in what has been done    (P7E)

• Status of ProtegeKIF project work    (OWF)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (OWG)

• status of OntologTaxoThesaurus project work    (OWH)
  • preparing for next week's work session    (OWI)
  • Denise has put together some slides for next week, Bob will circulate to the team    (OWJ)

• UBL liaison report    (OWK)
• SICoP liaison report    (OWL)
  • great workshop (still going) with the Geospatial community. See: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/OpenCollaboration_NetworkingGeospatialInformationTechnology_2006_06_20    (OWM)
  • ONTAC liaison report    (OWN)
• NCOR relationship    (OWO)
  • NCOR-Ontolog two way Partnership formalized - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-07/msg00030.html    (OWP)
  • also, announced at the 2006.07.23 Ontolog F2F Workshop by MarkMusen and BobSmith during their concluding remarks    (OWQ)
• NIST Collaboration    (OYG)
  • we will do a Tue 2006.08.22 Ontolog call (updated: was Thu 2006.08.24 previously; time unchanged) to plan out a short series of events (theme, program) that NIST and Ontolog can collaborate on in the short term (this could be a possible 3-way - NIST-Ontolog-NCOR - collaboration too). The series may possibly be "Test & Evaluation of Ontology and Tools" and/or some other theme of mutual interest.    (P7C)
  • Steve and Peter to get together and brainstorm about it, as a preparation for that call.    (PG8)
• Planning team report    (OWR)

8) Key Issues discussion:    (OWS)

• postmortems on the July2006 F2F and on OntologizingOntolog, covered in item 6 above    (OWT)
• (if we have time) Planning our events for the next quarter    (OWU)
  • worksheet updated - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006.doc (current version) ... also ref: working copy (during this call)    (OWV)
  • Candidate -    (OWW)
    • MikeGenesereth - EMichaelMaximilien is inviting him on behalf of our community    (OWX)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response)    (OWY)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (OWZ)
    • JohnSowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)    (OX0)
  • other suggestions:    (OX1)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (OX2)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (OX3)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (OX4)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team    (OX5)
    • PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness    (OX6)
    • To be brought up for discussion:    (OX7)
      • ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen    (OX8)
      • BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)    (OX9)
      • BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck    (OXA)
      • DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html    (OXB)
      • DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C    (OXC)
      • ChrisMenzel & PeterYim: ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)    (OXD)
      • PeterBrown & PeterYim: PeterBrown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that PeterBrown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".    (OXE)
      • BrandNiemann (2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who was to lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG. The new lead is DagobertSoergel from University of Maryland; we should consider inviting him too.    (OXF)
      • PeterYim (Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - MikeGenesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group)    (OXG)
        • EMichaelMaximilien will ping MikeGenesereth and some potential UIMA speakers on behalf of the community    (OXH)
      • BobSmith / PeterYim / EMichaelMaximilien (2006.01.23) - TomGruber    (OXI)
      • RexBrooks (2006.01.25) - JoeChiusano of Booz Allen Hamilton    (OXJ)
      • PeterYim (2006.02.14) - JackPark of SRI on topic maps, openiris, tagging contents, ...    (OXK)
      • DuaneNickull (2006.02.28) - Robert Tolksdorf of Freie Universität Berlin (Germany) or someone from their group    (OXL)
        • ref. their "Semantic Technologies in Collaborative Applications (STICA 06)" - http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/inst/ag-nbi/conf/STICA06/    (OXM)
      • PeterYim - UOS 'custodians' whom we have not had a chance to hear, in more depth: JohnBateman, TillMossakowski & AldoGangemi    (OXN)
      • LeoObrst - RobinMcEntire from Glaxo Smith Klein for his application expire (he was at the NCOR inauguration)    (OXO)
      • LeoObrst - BobMcGregor from Siderean (previously ISI)    (OXP)
      • LeoObrst - others from ISI like EdHovey, SergeiNirenburg, ...    (OXQ)
      • LeoObrst - RichardFikes from Stanford KSL    (OXR)
      • LeoObrst - IanHorrocks from University of Manchester    (OXS)
      • LeoObrst - PeterPatelSchneider from Bell Labs    (OXT)
      • PeterYim & MarkMusen (2006.04.29) - TimRedmond on "The Protege API"    (OXU)
      • EdDodds & PeterYim (2006.05.17): John Breslin of DERI on SIOC (Semantically-Interlinked Online Communities) - ref: http://rdfs.org/sioc/ & http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-05/msg00014.html    (OXV)
      • PeterYim (2006.05.17): PatCassidy on "From Controlled Vocabulary to Common Upper Ontology" (tentative; exact topic to be confirmed.)    (OXW)
      • PeterYim (2006.05.17): JohnBateman on GUM and on Bremen Ontology Research Group's approach to Ontologizing their body of knowledge    (OXX)
      • LeoObrst / BobSmith / PeterYim (new! 2006.06.16): MartinHepp of DERI    (OXY)
      • DuaneNickull - Ben Watson (Adobe), expertise at Ontological classifications for the Justice industry    (OXZ)
      • PeterYim (new! 2006.08.02) - bringing up PatHayes again, who just joined the community (on 2006.07.29)    (OY0)
      • PeterYim (new! 2006.08.02) - bringing up ChrisChute again, who I got to meet during the 2006.07.23~26 Protege Conference    (OY1)
      • PeterYim (new! 2006.08.02) - AlanRector (University of Manchester), who I got to meet during the 2006.07.23~26 Protege Conference    (OY2)
    • in view of the long list of superb candidates, suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa    (OY3)

• Discussion: concluded that the few people whom we will invite for Q4/2006 will include, but not limited to - ChristopherChute, AlanRector, BillAndersen & PatHayes    (P7H)

9) New project proposals    (OY4)

10) Sponsorship and funding    (OY5)

11) Other business    (OY6)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (OY7)

• Our next meeting/call will be next Thu 2006.08.10 - with DuaneNickull & RexBrooks' Scheduled Discussion Session on: "Ontologies and Service Oriented Architecture" - ref: ConferenceCall_2006_08_10    (OY8)
• this call adjourned 11:29 am PDT    (OY9)

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