[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-04-06 (M7M)
Conference Call Details (M7N)
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-04-06 (M7O)
- Date: Thursday, Apr. 6, 2006 (M7P)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 17:30 UTC World Clock (M7Q)
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour (M7R)
- Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa) (M7S)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (M7T)
- Agenda Comments: (M7U)
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (M7V)
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting (M7W)
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (M7X)
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_04_06 (M80)
Attendees (M81)
- Attended: (M82)
- Expecting: (M83)
- MonicaMartin (MCJ)
- ...(add your name here)... (M85)
- Regrets: (M86)
Agenda Ideas (candidate items to be adopted into the agenda for discussion) (M87)
- more in depth planning for the upcoming series of invited talks and technical discussion sessions relating to our initiative toward "ontologizing to improve access to the Ontolog body of knowledge" (M88)
- talk about the July 2006 face-to-face workshop at Stanford (colocated and as a part of the Protege International Workshop) (M89)
- follow-ups from the UOS (M8A)
- ...(add suggested items here)... (M8B)
Agenda & Proceedings (M8C)
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda (M8D)
- KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone. (M8E)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (M8F)
3) Roll-call of participants (M8H)
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future) (M8J)
- Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis): (M8K)
- Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person) (M8R)
- Thu 2006.04.13 - invited speaker: DeniseBedford (confirmed) (M8S)
- Thu 2006.04.20 - "Ontologizing the Ontolog Content - Session-I" Technical Discussion session (confirmed) (M8T)
- Thu 2006.05.11 - DavidFerrucci of IBM Research (Watson) on UIMA - confirmed (EMichaelMaximilien) (M8U)
- others: look under item 8 below (M8V)
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months: (M8W)
- Candidate - (M8X)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response) (M8Y)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull) (M8Z)
- John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy) (M90)
- other suggestions: (M91)
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group (M92)
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel (M93)
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time (M94)
- Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team (M95)
- PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness (M96)
- To be brought up for discussion: (M97)
- ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen (M98)
- BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI) (M99)
- BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck (M9A)
- DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html (M9B)
- DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C (M9C)
- ChrisMenzel & PeterYim: ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing) (M9D)
- PeterBrown & PeterYim: PeterBrown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that PeterBrown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services". (M9E)
- BrandNiemann (2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who was to lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG. The new lead is DagobertSoergel from University of Maryland; we should consider inviting him too. (M9F)
- MillsDavis (2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge) (M9G)
- PeterYim (2005.11.28) - AdamCheyer, SRI, on the CALO project (M9H)
- PeterYim (Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - MikeGenesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group) (M9I)
- BobSmith / PeterYim / EMichaelMaximilien (2006.01.23) - TomGruber (M9J)
- suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa (M9K)
- RexBrooks (2006.01.25) - JoeChiusano of Booz Allen Hamilton (M9L)
- PeterYim (2006.02.14) - JackPark of SRI on topic maps, openiris, tagging contents, ... (M9M)
- DuaneNickull (2006.02.28) - Robert Tolksdorf of Freie Universität Berlin (Germany) or someone from their group (M9N)
- ref. their "Semantic Technologies in Collaborative Applications (STICA 06)" - http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/inst/ag-nbi/conf/STICA06/ (M9O)
- PeterYim - UOS 'custodians' whom we have not had a chance to hear, in more depth: JohnBateman, TillMossakowski & AldoGangemi (MDA)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - RobinMcEntire from Glaxo Smith Klein for his application expire (he was at the NCOR inauguration) (M9P)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - BobMcGregor from Siderean (previously ISI) (M9Q)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - others from ISI like EdHovey, SergeiNirenburg, ... (M9R)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - RichardFikes from Stanford KSL (M9S)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - IanHorrocks from University of Manchester (M9T)
- LeoObrst (new! 2006.03.23) - PeterPatelSchneider from Bell Labs (M9U)
- Candidate - (M8X)
- EMichaelMaximilien will ping MikeGenesereth and some potential UIMA speakers on behalf of the community (M9V)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 3 months - * = extended discussion under item 8 below: (M9W)
- EMichaelMaximilien / NicolasRouquette / DeniseBedford / PeterYim - tagging the Ontolog (knowledge repository) content* (M9X)
- RexBrooks / BobSmith - ontology application in emergency response* (M9Y)
- Other candidates: (M9Z)
- Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion (MA0)
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel (MA1)
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful (MA2)
- NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up? (MA3)
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane. (MA4)
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion (MA5)
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war) (MA6)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec. (MA7)
- PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards" (MA8)
- candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?) (MA9)
- maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop? (MAA)
- more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series (MAB)
- (new! 2006.01.26) - tagging multimedia and other Ontolog content for podcast & semantic search (MAC)
- Upcoming Events of interest (MAD)
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues (MAE)
6) Follow-ups from previous calls (MAF)
- Ontolog at the UN/CEFACT Mar.2006 Vancouver, Canada meeting - BillMcCarthy (MAG)
- Bill was onlt there for the first 2.5 days (and then had to go to Jaopan for the ISO meeting. Bill hasd touched base with Mary Kay Blantz. Bill, Mary Kay and Anders Tell are now members of the TMG leadership (joint TMG steering committee) with Gunther Stuhec as the head. The three are part of UBAC (Uniform Agreement and Contract) - a WG that is trying to capture the legal semantics. (MAH)
- Bill and Mary Kay agreed to do more work at the next UN/CEFACT F2F 3rd week of June, 2006 at Brussels (MD2)
- Kurt: suggest we schedule a UN/CEFACT-ONTOLOG joint teleconference (hopefully on a Thursday) so that we can do a focused discussion (MD3)
- Bill was onlt there for the first 2.5 days (and then had to go to Jaopan for the ISO meeting. Bill hasd touched base with Mary Kay Blantz. Bill, Mary Kay and Anders Tell are now members of the TMG leadership (joint TMG steering committee) with Gunther Stuhec as the head. The three are part of UBAC (Uniform Agreement and Contract) - a WG that is trying to capture the legal semantics. (MAH)
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed (unless we have time) (MAI)
7) Current Project Status Report - discussion postponed (MAJ)
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work (MAK)
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) (MAL)
- Formalization issues (MAM)
- [CCT-Rep] status report (MAN)
- Status of Protege-KIF project work (MAO)
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work (MAP)
- UBL liaison report (MAQ)
- NCOR relationship - pending (MAS)
- Planning team report - see item 8 below (MAT)
8) Key Issues discussion: (MAU)
- Planning our events for the next quarter (MAV)
- worksheet updated - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006_20060309.doc ... working copy (MAW)
- confirmed invitation of DavidFerrucci of IBM to talk on UIMA 2006.05.11 - thanks to EMichaelMaximilien (who helped us extend the invitation) (MAX)
- also confirmed these dates now: 2006.04.13 - DeniseBedford's talk; 2006.04.20 - "Tagging-session-1" (MAY)
- Denise will drive this through the [ontolog-forum] (MAZ)
- we managed to lock in a few dates already, still need to confirm others [attn: Max & Conor - please advise] (MB0)
- Need from Max: confirmation on "Tagging-session-2" date and Mike Genesereth invitation/date. (MB1)
- worksheet updated - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Event_Plan_2006_20060309.doc ... working copy (MAW)
- from our 2006.02.16 & prior discussion, as well as discussion at this call: (MB2)
- "Ontologizing the Ontolog body of knowledge" Discussion Sessions - a.k.a. "A pilot exercise toward building an ontology application" (MB3)
- session 1: what do we want to do? (i.e. to do with the content we are tagging) (MB4)
- moderators: DeniseBedford (MB5)
- date: April 20, 2006 (confirmed -- Denise / 2006.03.23) (MB6)
- Abstract - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00043.html (MCO)
- candidate panelists: NicolasRouquette, EMichaelMaximilien or PeterMika, LisaColvin, PatHeinig, BobSmith, PeterYim ... (--suggested by =ppy/2006.04.04) (MB7)
- session 2: what are the technologies available? ... and what are our constraints and choices of technology to get the job done? (MB8)
- moderators: EMichaelMaximilien & ConorShankey (MB9)
- date: Thu June 8, 2006 ? (still needs to be confirmed by the co-moderators - Max & Conor) (MBA)
- candidate panelists: PeterMika, DeborahMcGuinness, Technorati-DavidSiffrey, (MBB)
- Max / Peter: either we try to get a balance panel (top down ontology vs. social tagging approach) or split this into two session, with one session devoted to each set of technology and approach (MD1)
- session 1: what do we want to do? (i.e. to do with the content we are tagging) (MB4)
- "Ontologizing the Ontolog body of knowledge" Discussion Sessions - a.k.a. "A pilot exercise toward building an ontology application" (MB3)
- (b) RexBrooks / BobSmith - ontology application in emergency response technical discussion session (MBD)
- now scheduled for Jun 22, 2006 - Rex and Bob will co-moderate (MBE)
- (c) Ontolog face-to-face workshop at the Ninth International Protege Conference that is scheduled to be held July 23-26, 2006 in Stanford, California? -- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-02/msg00028.html (MBF)
- definitely want to do this - consider to have Bob & Kurt lead this (MBG)
- Theme: "Natural, Semi-formal and Formal Ontologies: Bridging the Layers, Limits and Lacunas" (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_03_23#nidLUJ) (MBH)
- BobSmith: let's explore themes, expectations, and problem approaches, ... (MCH)
- feedback from the Protege organizers - need proposal in a day or two, need to be open to all, and on a topic of general interest (MD4)
- the meeting delegates Bob and Kurt to take charge, and get the proposal in (today or tomorrow) on behalf of the community ... after that, we will have a bit more time to work out the details. (MD5)
- candidate topic: (MD7)
- BillMcCarthy on openEDI Business Transaction Ontology (ISO/IEC 15944-4) (MD6)
- results we get from the "Ontologizing Ontolog Content" series (MD8)
- some presentation of learnings from the Upper Ontology Summit (maybe?) (MD9)
- (d) follow-up to the Upper Ontology Summit - deferred (MBI)
- whitepaper/UOS report for FOIS-2006 (MBJ)
- possibly with a fine-tuning (some tweaking to make it read better?) to the Joint Communique too (MBK)
- whitepaper for "Applied Ontology" journal (MBL)
- draft work proposal for funding agency like NSF (MBM)
- followed by a conference call or workshop (MBN)
- starting to interrelate the 8 UO's (MBO)
- whitepaper/UOS report for FOIS-2006 (MBJ)
- (e) Ontolog support letter to MarkMusen / Protege project - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00032.html (MBP)
- KurtConrad will have a draft ready real soon (MBQ)
9) New project proposals (MBR)
10) Sponsorship and funding (MBS)
11) Other business - discussion deferred (MBW)
- Should we have a joint presence at OIS2006? - OIS2006: 1st International Workshop on Ontologizing Industrial Standards (MBX)
- this is exactly what we said we'll strive to do on our charter! - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB (MBY)
- November 6-9, 2006 - Tucson, Arizona, USA - colocated with the 25th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling (ER2006) (MBZ)
- see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2006-03/msg00020.html & http://events.deri.at/ois2006/ (MC0)
- EMichaelMaximilien is in contact with some of these people ... he can help relay questions if we have any (MC1)
- conflict with 5th International Semantic Web Conference (same week, but in Athens, Georgia) (MC2)
- abstract deadline is May 1, 2006 (so we still have some time to get organized if we want to really do something) (MC3)
- this is definitely relevant to us ... let's think things over and come back for more discussion at the next call (MC4)
- project work session / discussion - "Beginning" of Year Planning for Ontolog -- to be postponed to the next membership conference call - discussion postponed (unless we have time) (MC5)
- initiatives for this year (MCB)
12) Next meeting date and adjourn (MCC)
- Our next meeting/callwill be next Thu 2006.04.13, Dr. DeniseBedford of the World Bank will be our invited speaker at that session. See: ConferenceCall_2006_04_13 for details (closer to the time.) (MCD)
- this call adjourned 11:41 am PST (MCE)
-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2006.04.06-11:41am PDT (MCF)