ConferenceCall 2005 10 06

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-10-06    (GKG)

Conference Call Details    (GKH)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-10-06    (GKI)

• Agenda Comments:    (GKJ)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (GKK)
  • In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work out a list of (a) speakers we plan to invite, and (b) technical discussion topics, for the next few months.    (GKL)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (GKM)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (GKN)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (GKO)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (GKP)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_06    (GKQ)
• Date: Thursday, Oct. 6, 2005    (GKR)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM UTC World Clock    (GKS)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (GKT)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (GKU)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (GKV)

Attendees    (GKW)

• Attended:    (GKX)
  • PeterYim    (GNT)
  • KurtConrad    (GOC)
  • BobSmith    (GOA)
  • MonicaMartin    (GNW)
  • BillMcCarthy    (GOH)
  • DuaneNickull    (GNU)
  • BrandNiemann    (GWY)

• Expecting:    (GKY)
  • SusanGolden    (GNV)
  • SteveRay    (GO1)
  • PeterBrown    (GO3)
  • ...(add your name here)...    (GKZ)

• Regrets:    (GL0)
  • MitchRinger    (GO2)
  • PatCassidy    (GOB)

Agenda Ideas    (GL1)

Agenda & Proceedings    (GL2)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (GL3)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (GL4)
• skipping all items and go directly to agenda item 8. That's the only thing we'll try to cover today.    (GOI)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (GL5)

• PeterYim volunteered    (GL6)

3) Roll-call of participants    (GL7)

• see above    (GL8)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (GL9)

• Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (GLA)
  • member regular meeting    (GLB)
  • invited speaker session    (GLC)
  • scheduled discussion    (GLD)
  • project review    (GLE)
  • workshop / work session    (GLF)
  • planning    (GLG)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events    (GLH)
  • Thu Oct. 13 2005 - BarrySmith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)    (GLI)
  • Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep    (GLJ)
    • NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, MichaelGruninger and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it    (GLK)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months    (GLL)
  • Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -    (GLM)
    • DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)    (GLO)
    • NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)    (GLP)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)    (GLR)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (GLQ)
    • John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)    (GLN)
    • JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)    (GLS)
  • other suggestions:    (GLT)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (GLU)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (GLV)
    • Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project    (GLW)
      • Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ    (GLX)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (GLY)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team    (GLZ)
    • PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness    (GM0)
    • To be brought up for discussion today:    (GM1)
      • ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen    (GM2)
      • BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)    (GM3)
      • BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck    (GM4)
      • DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html    (GM5)
      • DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C    (GM6)
      • ChrisMenzel & PeterYim: ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)    (GM7)
      • PeterBrown & PeterYim (new!): PeterBrown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that PeterBrown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".    (GO4)
      • BrandNiemann (new! input/2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who will lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG    (GWZ)
    • Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to    (GM8)
      • suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa    (GM9)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:    (GMA)
  • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (GMB)
  • NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?    (GMC)
  • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)    (GMD)
    • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE    (GME)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion    (GMF)
  • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (GMG)
  • we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005    (GMH)
  • candidates for November, 2005    (GMI)
    • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"    (GMJ)
    • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.    (GMK)
    • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion    (GML)
    • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)    (GMM)
      • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.    (GMN)
    • PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"    (GMO)
      • candidate panelists: BruceBargmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)    (GMP)
      • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?    (GMQ)
    • DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it    (GMR)
  • 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.    (GMS)
    • Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog    (GMT)
      • Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session    (GMU)
  • Rex asked for the availability of a next slot ...    (GMV)
  • Kurt: likely in November    (GMW)

• Discussion on upcoming invitations to next week - to be covered under item 8 below    (GMX)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (GMY)
  • National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html    (GMZ)
    • wants to know if call-in is supported    (GN0)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (GN1)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (GN2)

• Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling    (GN3)

7) Current Project Status Report    (GN4)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (GN5)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (GN6)
  • Formalization issues    (GN7)
  • UBL Liaison update    (GN8)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (GN9)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work    (GNA)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (GNB)
  • representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.    (GNC)
    • Rex: _____    (GND)
  • Kurt: Bob and Kurt had discussed possibilities of engaging people (with affinity in ontology and semantic technologies) from Intel now that Craig Barrett (Intel CEO) is in the AHIC Commission.    (GNE)
    • solicitation to members of this community to suggest good candidates we should engage    (GNF)

• UBL liaison report    (GNG)

• SICoP liaison report    (GNH)
  • SICoP/ONTAC-WG organizing meeting on 2005.10.05    (GOF)

• Planning team report    (GNI)

8) project work session / discussion - working out our invited speaker & discussion topics for the next few months    (GNJ)

• result of deliberation, see - http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/ONTOLOG-candidate-speakers-topics_20051006d.xls    (GOG)
  • Candidate speakers to invite (for the next few months):    (GNK)
    • JimSpohrer, DougLenat, DeborahMcGuinness, SimonBuckinghamShum, AsumanDogac, JohnSowa, RoyRoebuck, NicolaGuarino    (H5Y)
      • Targets: Nov. & Dec. 2005 - JimSpohrer, DougLenat (PeterYim & KurtConrad to follow-up); Feb. 2006 - AsumanDogac (MonicaMartin to follow-up)    (H5Z)

• candidate technical discussion topics (for the next few months)    (GNL)
  • Nov. 2005 - Take-II of Health Informatics Landscape - RexBrooks / BobSmith    (H60)
  • Dec. 2005 - Application & Implementation - KurtConrad & DuaneNickull    (H61)

9) New project proposals    (GNM)

10) Sponsorship and funding    (GNN)

11) Other business    (GNO)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (GNP)

• regular call adjourned 11:30am PDT    (GNQ)
• next call will be on Thu 2005-10-13 starting at 10:30 am PDT - Professor Barry Smith will be speaking on "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 ... see you there. RSVP!    (GNR)

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