ConferenceCall 2005 09 29

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-09-29    (G7E)

Conference Call Details    (G7F)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-09-29    (G7G)

• Agenda Comments:    (G7H)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (G7I)
  • In particular, we will be devoting a portion of this call to work on the planning and organizing-team sync-up for our upcoming 2005.10.20 Semantic Web Services Ontology Standard Discussion Session. Therefore, we need, in particular, NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, MichaelGruninger EMichaelMaximilien and other candidate panelists, as well as those who have suggestions for this discussion session to come to this planning session.    (GAV)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (G7J)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (G7K)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (G7L)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (G7M)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_09_29    (G7N)
• Date: Thursday, Sep. 29, 2005    (G7O)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT / 6:30 PM UTC World Clock    (G7P)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (G7Q)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (G7R)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (G7S)

Attendees    (G7T)

• Attended:    (G7U)
  • NicolasRouquette    (GCM)
  • JohnDomingue    (GCH)
  • KurtConrad    (GDO)
  • PeterYim    (GAW)
  • BrandNiemann    (GDT)
  • PatCassidy    (GDU)
  • MonicaMartin    (GCG)
  • RexBrooks    (GC7)
  • EMichaelMaximilien    (GCI)

• Expecting:    (G7V)
  • CarlReed    (GCN)
  • DuaneNickull    (GCQ)
  • ...(add your name here)...    (G7W)

• Regrets:    (G7X)
  • PaulKoch    (GC8)
  • BobSmith    (GCK)
  • MichaelGruninger    (GCL)
  • ElisaKendall    (GCO)

Agenda Ideas    (G7Y)

Agenda & Proceedings    (G7Z)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (G80)

• KurtConrad took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (G81)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (G82)

• PeterYim volunteered    (G83)

3) Roll-call of participants    (G84)

• see above    (G85)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (G86)

• Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (G87)
  • member regular meeting    (G88)
  • invited speaker session    (G89)
  • scheduled discussion    (G8A)
  • project review    (G8B)
  • workshop / work session    (G8C)
  • planning    (G8D)

• in view of the fact that EMichaelMaximilien can only join us for the first 30 minutes, we'll try to cover item 8 of the agenda first.    (GCJ)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events    (G8E)
  • Thu Oct. 13 2005 - BarrySmith - "How to Do Things with Paper: The Ontology of Documents and the Technologies of Identification" - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_13 - confirmed (BillMcCarthy)    (G8F)
  • Thu Oct. 20 2005 discussion - Moderator: NicolasRouquette - subject: Semantic Web Service Ontology Standard - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep    (G8G)
    • NicolasRouquette, JohnDomingue, MichaelGruninger and EMichaelMaximilien are working together to prepare for it    (G8H)
    • 2005.09.21 call report: EMichaelMaximilien trying to recruit some OWL-S experts    (G8I)
    • devoting part of this call session to the planning and organizing-team sync-up for this event (see below)    (G8J)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months    (G8K)
  • Candidate Nov. 2005 session(s) and beyond -    (G8L)
    • John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)    (G8M)
    • DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)    (G8N)
    • NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)    (G8O)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (G8P)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)    (G8Q)
    • JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion)    (G8R)
  • other suggestions:    (G8S)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (G8T)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (G8U)
    • Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project    (G8V)
      • Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ    (G8W)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (G8X)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team    (G8Y)
    • PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness    (G8Z)
    • To be brought up for discussion today:    (G90)
      • ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen    (G91)
      • BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)    (G92)
      • BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck    (G93)
      • DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html    (G94)
      • DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C    (G95)
      • PeterYim (new!): ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 (on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)    (G96)
    • Peter: since we have such a great (and huge) list of candidates now, maybe we should put a process together to find out who are among the top speakers the community wants to hear and talk to    (G97)
      • suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa    (G98)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates:    (G99)
  • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (G9A)
  • NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?    (G9B)
  • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)    (G9C)
    • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE    (G9D)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion    (G9E)
  • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (G9F)
  • we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005    (G9G)
  • candidates for November, 2005    (G9H)
    • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"    (G9I)
    • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.    (G9J)
    • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion    (G9K)
    • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)    (G9L)
      • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.    (G9M)
    • PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"    (G9N)
      • candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)    (G9O)
      • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?    (G9P)
    • DuaneNickull: "Ontological and Semantic Implementation Panel" - some time in the future - Duane will start a page in preparation on it    (G9Q)
  • 2005.09.01: EMichaelMaximilien: suggest we use some sort of IM tool (or other real time signaling) so that the moderator could know who has a question.    (G9R)
    • Duane suggested this tool by Doug Davis of IBM - (will post to the forum) - try http://soaphub.homeip.net:8080/conf/room/ontolog    (G9S)
      • Alll present agreed that this is really cool! - we'll start using it at the next discussion session    (G9T)

• Deferring discussion on upcoming invitations to next week - ConferenceCall_2005_10_06    (GFH)
  • Rex asked for the availability of a next slot ...    (GFI)
  • Kurt: likely in November    (GFJ)
  • Kurt / Peter: we'll spend more time at next week's call to tie down our next speakers and discussion topics    (GFK)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (G9U)
  • Sep. 30, 2005 - Esther Dyson's "Personal Health Conference" in New York City    (G9V)
  • Oct. 5, 2005 - see ColabWiki:OntologyandTaxonomyCoordinatingWGMeeting_2005_10_05    (GDV)
  • National Center for Ontological Research (NCOR) Opening - Oct. 27, 2005 (Buffalo, NY) - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00000.html    (G9W)
    • wants to know if call-in is supported    (G9X)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (G9Y)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (G9Z)

• post-mortem on the ConferenceCall_2005_09_08 ElisaKendall & ConferenceCall_2005_09_23 JonBosak invited speaker sessions    (GA0)
  • what worked well    (GA1)
  • what could be improved    (GA2)
  • ideas for the future    (GA3)
  • Peter: special vote of thanks to both Elisa and Jon for their wonderful presentations    (GFZ)
  • Monica: we should keep a focus on the business case and applicability, alongside discussion of technology    (GFG)

• Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling    (GA4)

7) Current Project Status Report    (GA5)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (GA6)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (GA7)
  • Formalization issues    (GA8)
  • UBL Liaison update    (GA9)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (GAA)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work    (GAB)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (GAC)
  • representation and paper submission to FCW Government Health IT Conference - Nov. 17~18, 2005, Washington, D.C.    (GAD)
  • Kurt: Bob and Kurt had discussed possibilities of engaging people (with affinity in ontology and semantic technologies) from Intel now that Craig Barrett (Intel CEO) is in the AHIC Commission.    (GFQ)
    • solicitation to members of this community to suggest good candidates we should engage    (GFR)

• UBL liaison report    (GAE)

• SICoP liaison report    (GAF)
  • PeterYim and MarkMusen received a special recognition from SICoP during the 2005.09.14 SICoP meeting in the Washington DC area.    (GAG)
    • see: Brand Niemann's slide #26 at: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoPConference_2005_09_14#nid2YEE    (GAH)
    • the Ontolog Forum's contribution has been duly recognized in this award!    (GAU)
    • Citation:    (GAI)

                 Federal CIO Council’s Semantic Interoperability Community of Practice (SICoP)
                 Special Recognition
                 Peter Yim, President & CEO of CIM Engineering, Inc., and Mark Musen, Stanford Medical Informatics, Stanford University
                 For “Outstanding Contributions” to Providing Critical Infrastructure for Collaborative Ontology Development:
                 The Ontolog Forum, The Collaboration Wiki, Protégé, and The Server for Multi-User Protégé 
                 That Support SICoP and Other Federal Communities of Practice, 
                  the New National Center for Ontological Research, 
                  and a World-Wide Community.
                 Presented at the 2005 SICoP Annual Meeting, September 14, 2005, at the MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, 
                 by SICoP Chair,  Brand Niemann, U.S. EPA.
                 [KM.GOV]    [SICoP]    (GAJ)

• Planning team report    (GAK)

8) project work session / discussion    (GAL)

• 2005.10.20 Semantic Web Services Ontology Standard Panel Discussion Session Planning - see: ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep    (GAT)
  • oustanding issues to be addressed - http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_10_20/Prep#nidGC9    (GCF)
  • Finalized panelists: JohnDomingue (WSMO), MichaelGruninger (SWSF / FLOWS), AmitSheth of U of Georgia (WSDL-S), and DavidMartin of SRI (OWL-S) T    (GFE)
  • Nicolas will move an abstract and a list of pertinent questions to frame the discussion onto the 2005.10.20 session page    (GFF)

9) New project proposals    (GAM)

• Nicolas asked Peter / CIM3 about possibility on hosting some ontology tools development work. Peter says that is welcomed, and suggested to take the conversation off-line.    (GFS)

10) Sponsorship and funding    (GAN)

11) Other business    (GAO)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (GAP)

• regular call adjourned 11:39 am PDT    (GAQ)
• next call will be on Thu 2005-10-06 starting at 10:30 am PDT    (GAR)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2005.09.29    (GAS)