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Re: [uom-ontology-admin] UoM coordination meeting - Mon 2010.01.04

To: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Cc: uom-ontology-admin <uom-ontology-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:29:59 -0800
Message-id: <af8f58ac1001040729q7f76d098t7bdd731ba9eaefcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Got it, pat. Thanks.    (01)

I've added that to the agenda,
see: 
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM_Ontology_Standard/GettingOrganized#nid25YG    (02)

However, we might want to first decide whether we want to talk about
them at today's or Thursday's session, or both.    (03)

Best.  =ppy
--    (04)


On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Peter, two agenda items I'd like to discuss, both somewhat technical.
>
> 1. I've introduced a new idea into the ontology, of 'measurement event', to
> try to deal with the VIM meta-issue of whether 'real quantities' exist and
> the ubiquity or otherwise of errors and estimates. I'd like to outline the
> motivation for this and get feedback, especially negative.
>
> 2. So far, I can see no rational way to distinguish the concepts of
> [dimension] and [quantity kind], and so propose to identify them (ie treat
> these as synonyms.) Again, I would like feedback/discussion, especially
> negative.
>
> Pat    (05)


> On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:44 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Pat.
>>
>> I just added a link to the NIST webpage on SI Units to the wiki for
>> everyone's reference too.
>> See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM#nid25ZF
>>
>> Regards.  =ppy
>> --    (06)


>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have put up some preliminary notes at
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM_Ontology_Standard_CLIF_Draft
>>>
>>> Pat    (07)


>>> On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Peter Yim wrote:
>>>
>>>> (resending ... with the correct subject line! sorry.)
>>>>
>>>> Re:
>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM_Ontology_Standard/GettingOrganized#nid255F
>>>>
>>>> = REMNDER: =
>>>>
>>>> Our next UoM-coordination call is coming up on Monday 4-Jan-2010
>>>> (tomorrow).
>>>>
>>>> == Call Details: ==
>>>>
>>>> * Monday 2010.01.04 - 11:00am EST / 8:00am PST / 5:00pm CET / 4:00pm
>>>> GMT / 16:00 UTC
>>>> ** world clock:
>>>>
>>>> 
>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=1&day=4&year=2010&hour=8&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
>>>>
>>>> * Dial-in No. (US) +1-218-844-8060; (UK) 0844-581-9148; (France)
>>>> 0826-100-280;
>>>>  (please call one of the numbers above if a local number is not
>>>> available at your country)
>>>> * Conference ID: "4389979#"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will be posting a draft agenda on the meeting workspace (before the
>>>> call starts)
>>>> at:
>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM_Ontology_Standard/GettingOrganized#nid255F
>>>> ... in the mean time, please review notes from the previous call, and
>>>> add any item you want to see discussed there (or via this mail
>>>> thread.)
>>>>
>>>> Essentially, we will be focusing on getting ready for the next
>>>> community session (coming up on Thursday Jan-7) -
>>>>
>>>> 
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UoM_Ontology_Standard/ConferenceCall_2010_01_07
>>>> ... and also on the word out and preparing for the Jan-21 first OASIS
>>>> QUOMOS TC conference call.
>>>>
>>>> We will be expecting all content champions to be on the panel of this
>>>> session to update us on any progress made since the last open
>>>> community session. We are delighted that Charles Ehrlich (NIST) from
>>>> the BIPM/VIM leadership will be joining us on the panel on Jan-7 ( ...
>>>> thanks, Steve!).   HowardMason will chair the Jan-7 session, and will
>>>> let us know if any other SDO representative (BS, ISO, ... etc.) will
>>>> be joining us that day as well.
>>>>
>>>> We are expecting: HowardMason, SteveRay, FrankOlken, EdBarkmeyer,
>>>> PatHayes,PeterYim, JoelBender, DavidLeal, DavidPrice, GuntherSchadow,
>>>> RobRaskin, ChipMasters, HansPeter_de_Koning, JerrySmith,  JamieClark
>>>> (optional), LinZhang (optional), CharlesEhrlich (optional) at this
>>>> call.
>>>>
>>>> If you feel that some other individual needs to be at the call too,
>>>> feel free to ask him/her to join us.
>>>>
>>>> ... RSVP (regrets or additions only!)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Talk to you all then.  =ppy
>>>>
>>>> P.S.  Dr. Ehrlich, it would be great if you can join us at this call
>>>> to coordinate with the chair and other panelists on how Jan-7 session
>>>> will be rolled out (however, if you can't, due to the late notice, we
>>>> would certainly understand.)
>>>> --
>>
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