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Re: [ontology-summit] OS-2012 Problem Space - Fuller

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From: ravi sharma <drravisharma@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:26:20 -0500
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Geometric shape that is strong / stable with closed form and requires minimum material to make structures and buildings - Fuller dome. If we took anology to ontology, what would happen to relationships? Would they be all same kind as the structural elements of dome? What would be meaning of closure, repeating relations among same objects (iteration?),how would such ontology be described and would it be only a whole-part type?
Ravi Sharma 

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Paul Tyson <phtyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 2012-02-14 at 01:43 +0000, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
> Maybe so, Paul. Is there an online reference we can find?

Not that I can find. I quoted from my old-fashioned 1975 edition.

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/886421

Odd that we haven't seen more references to Fuller among the many names
dropped into this year's forum discussion. He specialized in big
systems.

Regards,
--Paul

>
> Thanks,
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Tyson
> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:25 PM
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> On Mon, 2012-02-13 at 22:06 +0000, Obrst, Leo J. wrote:
>
> > The goal might be for one object to partially penetrate another
> > object. A more general pattern keeps that goal but broadens it. Hit X
> > to Y to move Y. Croquet or golf, etc. A more specific pattern: Hit X
> > to Y when Y is held stationary, with such force that a back portion of
> > Y ignites to propel a front portion of Y. A gun and bullet, with a
> > slight modification, a rocket. Or perhaps a shift analogically to a
> > social organization ontology, and here is where metaphors help. Hit
> > conservative-social-values to the electorate to move the electorate
> > rightward into the nation-state’s governance.
> >
>
> Well if you're going that far in abstraction, why not go all the way to
> R.B. Fuller's six fundamental unique patterns of system interference:
>         Tangential avoidance
>         Modulated noninterference
>         Reflection
>         Refraction
>         Smash-up (explosion)
>         Critical Proximity (minimum knot)
>
> (Fuller, Synergetics, 517.10)
>
> Special cases (instances) only vary in their parameters. These patterns
> go a long way toward fitting most physical and communication systems.
>
> Regards,
> --Paul
>
>
>
>
>
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Ravi
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