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AL: "Thus I suppose that in Ontology Engineering one of
the disciplines to study should be Systems Engineering".
Dear Anatoly,
I like how you promote the topic as well as your
real world approach to Ontology Engineering as based on "true ontology ...the
knowledge of things".
Basing on the ontological engineering, added up
with the systems engineering tools and methods, we promote in Russia smart
sustainable community projects as multidisciplinary projects:
http://iiisyla.livejournal.com/
I believe there is a good ground for further
cooperation with the INCOSE III Russia Charter.
Kind regards
Azamat Abdoullaev
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:35
PM
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Ontology
Engineering for Systems Engineering
Dear
Azamat,
sorry, URI of
Russian 3 hour of ?ontology engineering for systems engineering? video go to
http://incose-ru.livejournal.com/32094.html
(and there are many other video with systems engineering ontology-related
talks at http://incose-ru.livejournal.com/,
especially that deal with ISO 15926 ontology).
In my blog I often
write that programming, modeling and ontologizing is the same activity.
Software Engineering is embedded now in all curriculums of Systems Engineering
(BKCaSE project -- http://www.bkcase.org/), thus Model Engineering and
Ontology Engineering should be embedded too.
There is consensus
that in next version of SEBoK (software body of knowledge, the base for
Software Engineering curriculum) Systems Engineering will be as one of
discipline to study. Thus I suppose that in Ontology Engineering one of the
disciplines to study should be Systems Engineering. Azamat, you have right
questions, but no fewer questions we can find in ?Systems Engineering for
Ontology Engineering?.
Best
regards,
Anatoly
Levenchuk
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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 9:58
PM
To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
Subject: Re:
[ontology-summit] Ontology Engineering for Systems
Engineering
How ontology
engineering (OE) interrelates with systems engineering (SE) is
indeed an engaging issue to discuss on the Summit.
- If OE for
SE, or rather vice versa
- If OE
gives for SE, concepts, models, universal systems language, as well as the
whole system principles, as holism, emergency, boundary
- If SE is
about methods, tools, strategies, procedures, and techniques, as
systemic modeling and simulation, design synthesis and engineering,
development and management, all to manage compexity
in multidisciplinary projects and complex systems.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent: Thursday,
January 26, 2012 3:23 PM
Subject: Re:
[ontology-summit] Ontology Engineering for Systems
Engineering
We have yesterday
(25th of January 2012) 57th regular meeting of
INCOSE Russian chapter and have about 3 hour of a discussion on ?ontology
engineering for systems engineering? topic (slides in English, video in
Russian -- http://ailev.livejournal.com/976932.html).
Hope that
somebody (who understand Russian) will enjoy video of the discussion
:-)
Best
regards,
Anatoly
Levenchuk
Dear
Matthew,
OK with
26th of January. By the way, we will discuss (in Russian) those
slides 25th of January 2012 at INCOSE Russian chapter meeting.
I think that we
can discuss my or Victor possible presentation at second session in a week
from 26th of January to 2nd of February. As I
understand it can be devoted to readiness assessment and some kind of
feasibility study of suggested issues.
Best
regards,
Anatoly
Levenchuk
Dear
Anatoly,
Confusion
obviously continues. I am hoping you will present this Thursday
(26th of January). The second session as well if you (or Victor)
can.
Regards
Matthew
West
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Dear All,
I was invited by Matthew West to
participate in second joint session of tracks 1 and 2 (2nd of
February 2012). I prepared outline for my presentation ?Ontology Engineering
for Systems Engineering? and publish it here: http://www.slideshare.net/ailev/ontolog
Will be glad to get any remarks (and
then will rework this slides) and ready to answer all questions about
it.
Best regards,
Anatoly
Levenchuk
TechInvestLab,
president
INCOSE Russian Chapter, research
director (past president)
Moscow, Russia
Blog: http://levenchuk.com and in
Russian http://ailev.ru
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4900
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