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Thanks for asking, Bobbin ... yes, for endorsements, of course.
We have not hampers the exposure of what is available "out there" (open or proprietary ... although, we do have to document a waiver to our IPR policy when showcasing the latter, which we have done in numerous occasions.) I was making the remark in regard to building the "website of summit content" in Ali/Ken's "eat our own dogfood" initiative.
Regards. =ppy
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On Jan 25, 2012 12:03 PM, "Bobbin Teegarden" < teegs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ah,Peter, regarding tools: I would hope your comment below about only
inlcuding open source tools was just about 'endorsement.' There is an
incredible amount of experience with all manner of commercial tools, and I
as an implementer would like to see the whole span -- commercial and/vs open
source, especially what was/is missing in the open source tools that is
available on the market in some other way.
Or maybe I misunderstood your intent in your email below?
-----Original Message-----
From: ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ontology-summit-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:30 AM
To: Ontology Summit 2012 discussion
Subject: Re: [ontology-summit] Presenting Ontology Summit 2012
Ken and All,
The output of last year's Ontology Summit (ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011OntologySummit2011
)
when we tackled the theme "Making the Case for Ontology" would be a good
starting point.
Take a look at the communique from 2011 -
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011_Communique
Specifically, the table at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2011_Communique#nid2SZ
U
which broke down the various classes of audience that ontologists would need
to make their case to, would be a good start.
Thanks & regards. =ppy
p.s. By the way, in view of our open-technology, open-content advocacy,
let's confine to open source tools (unless we agree to a waiver at the
organizing committee on a case-by-case basis.)
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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Ken Allgood <ken.allgood@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ali,
>
> Agree with the approach, and think it could substantially increase
> information exchange and overall audience engagement. As mentioned
> during the last planning session, I'm happy to help and have some IA
> tools I've used in the past to address such challenges. I believe
> Peter stated that there was a starting list of different
> consumer/contributor types and associated use context details which
> had already been assembled. If that's the case, we can begin with
> those, derive potential use cases/engagement models, and come up with
> usable personas and a classification approach fairly quickly.
>
> Peter, could you point us to that referenced list of candidate
> consumers/contributors?
>
> Regards,
> Ken
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Ali SH <asaegyn+out@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> This email is an attempt to solicit help in making the output of this
>> year's Ontology Summit more accessible to those who did not
>> participate in the summit.
>>
>> While the wiki and the communique are wonderful resources, they are
>> not aimed at a general audience. If we wish to increase the relevance
>> of all the activity that is currently underway, we could start by
>> making the content more welcoming and intuitively navigable.
>>
>> The main motivation is that an ontologist or engineer coming to the
>> website is not necessarily interested in the entire content, but some
>> subselection of it. Moreover, to use a hackneyed phrase - it would be
>> good for us to eat our own dogfood.
>>
>> Given the limited amount of time and resources at our disposal (and
>> problems I ran into last year), developing a comprehensive ontology
>> for the domain is not realistic.
>>
>> The following might be a far simpler and achievable goal (though
>> quite a bit more brittle). By anticipating who might be interested in
>> the output of the summit, and to what end, we could provide just
>> those bits of content that are of interest to them, in a clear,
aesthetically engaging way.
>>
>> This would necessitate determining audience types, correlating to who
>> would want to view the summit and why. Examples might include:
>>
>> Working systems engineer, wants to apply learnings from summit to
>> their project Ontologist looking for design patterns to describe
>> functions or systems etc.
>>
>> If we can identify a set of use cases that would cover the bulk of
>> anticipated interactions on the website, then we can work to make the
>> content more personalized and contextual. Namely, if we can ascertain
>> that the visitor is an engineer interested in systems of Type A
>> (hopefully an outcome of track two), then we might be able to present
>> just those pieces of content that are associated with Type A systems.
>>
>> Aside from defining our audiences and anticipated website
>> interactions, we would also need to tag our content and write queries
>> that would select the appropriate content according to defined user
>> needs and interests -- a sort of proto-ontology or super lightweight
>> ontology that simply connects information about the user with content
>> clusters. In this way, it should be possible to structure and tag our
>> content in such a way that we can deliver a contextualized /
>> personalized view which matches the intention of the audience.
>>
>> Any takers?
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