Re: [ontology-summit] Official Communique Feedback Thread

[Alexander Garcia Castro <alexgarciac@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Barry Smith: Too many ontologies are creating semantic silios, we need only one ontology per domain, and can only afford one."

Did he say that? "one ontology per domain"? I dont like that idea; also, it seems unpractical. what if the ontology does not cover the domain in the way u need it? it happens very often that u need to extend existing ontologies, it also happens that such extensions involve the definition of several axioms, rules and at the end u get a significantly different ontology -a violation to the one ontology and one ontology only. 

if you consider the upper level ontologies (BFO, DOLCE), so should we all stick to one of them and support one of them only? also impractical. not to mention that upper level ontologies like BFO and the like are not always used when developing ontologies -in some papers the actual need for such ontologies has been discussed. 

What about the representation language?  should it also be "one language only"? if this is the case, also unpractical.  

silos, sure there are silos. but having one single ontology does not solve the problem. actually IMHO it does not solve anything. it could probably be a good idea to address the issue of interoperability across ontologies rather than pretending to have " one ontology per domain". 

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Brand Niemann <bniemann@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Introduction

 

I am Brand Niemann, Semantic Community, and recently completed 30 years of federal services at the US EPA as senior enterprise architect and data science. I am interested in the role of ontology in semantic interoperability and the application of semantic interoperability to major applications like Federal Cloud Computing, Enterprise Architecture and SOA, and Knowledge Management and Computational Journalism. Mills Davis and I are restarting the Semantic Interoperability Community of Practice (SICoP) and are trying to do at least one activity each month – please see our Events Calendar at http://semanticommunity.info/#Events_Calendar . We look forward to collaborating with you.

 

Comments During the First Morning

 

There are two simple concepts expressed during presentations by the two major government-funded ontology programs (EU and US JPDO) that I have yet to hear mentioned as follows:

 

1.Ontolog Forum, March 17th, Perspective from the European Commission

SteveRay: Ah - good quote: "The need comes first, ontologies come later"

See Chat Log: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_03_17#nid2QHC

 

2. Ontology Driven Implementation of Semantic Services for the Enterprise Environment (ODISSEE) Workshop, April 19, 2011

 

Barry Smith: Too many ontologies are creating semantic silios, we need only one ontology per domain, and can only afford one.

 

See: http://semanticommunity.info/Build_TOGAF_in_the_Cloud#Ontology_Driven_Implementation_of_Semantic_Services.c2.a0for_the_Enterprise_Environment_(ODISSEE)_Workshop

and specifically Barry Smith at http://semanticommunity.info/Build_TOGAF_in_the_Cloud#Barry_Smith

 

and the summary slides I sent previously at http://semanticommunity.info/@api/deki/files/10494/=BrandNiemann04142011.pptx  

 

So there are questions of sequencing and number of ontologies that need to be addressed.

 

Grand Challenges

I think the Ontology Community should engage in Challenges and Competitions (not the Grand Challenge) especially say for health data. I have participated in three so far and have not seen any using ontology – see http://semanticommunity.info/Build_the_Health_Data_Infrastructure_in_the_Cloud

 

Brand

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