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From: | Thomas Johnston <tmj44p@xxxxxxx> |
Date: | Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:19:30 +0000 (UTC) |
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Well said, John. Nothing there for me to object to, everything for me to agree with. On Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:54 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: On 9/18/2015 11:30 AM, Thomas Johnston wrote: > there is a tension between eclecticism and the development of theory. Certainly. I am strongly in favor of theories. But there is a huge difference between theory and dogma. It's important to search for commonalities among theories and generalize them. But never expect any theory (scientific or religious) to be the final answer. Peirce's "first rule of reason" is Do not block the way of inquiry. There are too many people who claim that their particular way is the one true way. That is the death of inquiry. > It is when nuts with guts (Galileo, Newton, Darwin, Einstein, Bohr) > face their opponents that scientific progress is made. Excellent examples. Each one made very important breakthroughs. But their views had important gems of truth and a lot that had to be revised or replaced. > I suspect that you would not want to characterize any of these > luminaries as "nuts with guts", but the issue here, for me at least, > is that, given what you have said, why aren't they? The point where brilliant innovators become nuts is when their theories become a dogma. Sometimes the original innovator may become a nut with a gut, but more often it's a dedicated follower who freezes one stage of the theory into a dogma. Newton, for example, had many ideas that were dead ends. Among them was the view that it was impossible for any earthly mechanism to be as precise a time keeper as the heavenly bodies. That idea was wrong, but he also had quite a few that were truly weird. I would say that Einstein went down the slippery slope that led him to a dead end with his search for a GUT. There is nothing wrong with the search -- provided that it does not violate the first rule of reason. In logic, I have the highest regard for Peirce, Whitehead, and Wittgenstein. They recognized the limitations of deductive logic. I would consider Bertrand Russell to be a borderline nut. He led Wittgenstein astray, and LW had to spend the rest of his life explaining where his mentors, Frege and Russell, went wrong. > I also agree with Atticus Finch who said that you haven't understood > another man until you have walked around in his shoes. I agree. But note Harper Lee's new book. Atticus was still unable to break out of his segregationist mindset. John PS Re Russell: I'd delete the adjective 'borderline' in front of 'nut'. See the biography by Ray Monk. _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J (01) |
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