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Re: [ontolog-forum] failed email

To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Rich Cooper'" <Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "MetaSemantics Corporation" <metasemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:14:44 -0700
Message-id: <011501d0732b$bb608fc0$3221af40$@com>

Dear Peter,

You wrote:

      [ppy] sure, Rich ... I have just done that for you, for both the

      [ontolog-forum] (discussion) and [ontolog-invitation] (announcement)

      lists. You should have received system notifications to that effect.

Yes, the notifications (all four) came through perfectly, apparently unfouled by the spamsters.

You continued, after a pause:

      >  [RichCooper] There is no need to block the entire

      > domain name, only the one account.

      [ppy] not sure if I understand you properly ... your situation should

      have nothing to do the issue that Thomas Johnson is reporting (which

      seems to have been caused by a problematic Yahoo mail server, which is

      probably hijacked by spammers.)

 

I just meant that, in my Outlook, there is a tool to block a junk-mail sender's domain name.  That is useful for spammers who vary the first part of the email over a dictionary of first parts to get past the simplest of the spam checkers. 

So in this case, the spammer only got one account which has been locked down with the DNS service so that only my ISP can authenticate, and only my ISP can originate emails.  Messages sent from that email name (rich @ englishlogickernel.com) alone are used by the spammers, so blocking the account (rich) instead of the domain name (englishlogickernel.com) does the job.

Thanks for your forbearance,

Sincerely,

Rich Cooper,

Chief Technology Officer,

MetaSemantics Corporation

MetaSemantics AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

( 9 4 9 ) 5 2 5-5 7 1 2

http://www.EnglishLogicKernel.com

-----Original Message-----
From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Yim
Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 5:12 PM
To: Rich Cooper
Cc: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] failed email

Rich and All,


> [RichCooper]  Could you possibly change the email address for ontolog-forum

> to an alternative which appears to work properly -

> metasemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  That would be the smoothest change,

> and then unsubscribe me as rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx which is the only

> account I am getting spoofed on.

[ppy] sure, Rich ... I have just done that for you, for both the

[ontolog-forum] (discussion) and [ontolog-invitation] (announcement)

lists. You should have received system notifications to that effect.


>  [RichCooper] There is no need to block the entire

> domain name, only the one account.

[ppy] not sure if I understand you properly ... your situation should

have nothing to do the issue that Thomas Johnson is reporting (which

seems to have been caused by a problematic Yahoo mail server, which is

probably hijacked by spammers.)

We (CIM3, whose infrastructure the Ontolog mailing lists are running

on) do not go out to "block" these spamming servers. Rather, we block

servers that are being "publicly blacklisted" (and those reported on

sorbs.net are among them.) ... please refer again to the message I

have cited earlier -

http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-admin/2014-02/msg00000.html - as

well as other references that message referred to.)


Regards. =ppy

--



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Rich Cooper

<Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have been getting spammed with emails FROM my account

> "rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" which is being spoofed by unknown entities.

> Previously, I got offers to acquire the domain name

> "englishlogickernel.com.cn" and a few other names like that, supposedly in

> China.  It was an enormous expense to buy it compared to here, so I said no.

> Ever since then, I have been getting email rejections from someone who is

> spoofing that account.  But I don't know the spoofer.

>

>

>

> Could you possibly change the email address for ontolog-forum to an

> alternative which appears to work properly -

> metasemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  That would be the smoothest change,

> and then unsubscribe me as rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx which is the only

> account I am getting spoofed on.  There is no need to block the entire

> domain name, only the one account.

>

>

>

> I apologize for the inconvenience; that first started in October, 2014.  I

> got a flood of response messages until I found the ISP could set the domain

> name alpha record to lock down my account.  That stopped it all in November,

> but it just started up again in the last ten days.  The best and simplest

> solution is to change your subscriber record for the email list to accept

> only metasemantics@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but not accept

> rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>

>

>

> That way, no domain name wide blocking is needed.

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Rich Cooper,

>

> Rich Cooper,

> www DOT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

> ( 9 4 9 ) 5 2 5-5 7 1 2



On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Thomas and All,

>

> Please refer to a discussion of the issue and solution at:

> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-admin/2014-02/msg00000.html

>

> Regards. =ppy

> --



> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Johnston

> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2015 9:51 AM

> To: [ontolog-forum]

> Subject: [ontolog-forum] failed email

>

>

>

> <<<

>

> Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address.

>

> <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Remote host said:

> 554 Service unavailable; Client host [98.138.91.70] blocked using

> safe.dnsbl.sorbs.net; Currently Sending Spam

> See:http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?98.138.91.70

> [RCPT_TO]

>

>>>>

>

>

>

> Is there some reason these emails failed, and got a "currently sending spam"

> message?

>

>

>

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