You are right on target, Hans, but every person
has a unique history, and nearly every person
obeys predictable behavior statistics to some
degree. That is why I like the patent user
environment: the motivation is as clear as the
rules for football, but on a bigger field with
lots of penalties. (01)
As the user has a known task motivation, which
could be captured by the user's settings,
vocabulary, or other sensing method, the steps a
user goes through must have a certain logic behind
it. (02)
The user is not unknowing: she can be expected to
understand the technology described by the claims. (03)
If the Ai monitors the user's progress, it could
teach tricks that help a user reach the goal in
fewer steps. Often, the user doesn't expect a
better way, so she doesn't look for it. That
would require the Ai-ified system to model user
experience as success toward goals, frustration or
comfort with the current subtask, and other
measures that could trigger suggestions the Ai
could make if enabled. (04)
-Rich (05)
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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John, (08)
Bringing this back to the topic of ontologies and
motivated cognition,
groups of these various types (and scope) also
create local frames of
reference, such as calendars, time zones, units
of measure, postal codes,
naming conventions, passport numbers, policy
numbers, and, of course,
languages. When two different groups attempt to
interoperate, it's not
enough to agree on language or some standard
translation subset between two
or more languages. One must also agree/communicate
regarding which frames of
reference are being used by the various parties. (09)
That probably should include - but rarely does -
the ethical and cultural
perspectives of the parties involved. I happen to
believe that is one of the
reasons there are so many complaints from both
(multiple?) sides of the
political spectrum regarding media bias. The other
side of the complaint has
difficulty even seeing any bias because of their
ethical/cultural frame of
reference. (010)
Hans (011)
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Rich, (013)
I agree that families, extended families, and
tribes have been fundamental
to animal behavior since time immemorial. You'll
find them in ants, wolves,
and chimpanzees. As they say, "Birds of a feather
flock together." (014)
When I said that political parties are ad hoc, I
should have qualified the
point to say that they are less fundamental than
those more basic groups. (015)
> There is no known solution to this problem,
which has been around
> since the nation began, possibly since tribes
began from families. (016)
If you recognize loyalty to a group as natural,
the issue is not which
political party, but which kind of group and why. (017)
If you go to countries like Afghanistan, the
tribal leaders are still in
charge, and political parties are weak. In
countries like the USA, they are
somewhat stronger, but note that the fastest
growing party in the US is
"independent". (018)
But there are many other kinds of groups to which
people have a strong
loyalty. They include schools, clubs, and sports
teams. A common language
or even a common dialect can be the basis for a
strong group affiliation.
Religious affiliation can be strong enough to
cause families to break apart. (019)
A common profession -- science, engineering,
music, farming, or even
employment at the same company -- can create
strong loyalties and common
ways of thinking. (020)
When people belong to multiple groups, serious
crises can occur when two
groups to which they have strong loyalties come
into conflict. (021)
And when people become estranged from a group to
which they had strong
loyalties, they can undergo a serious crisis --
even suicide or violence
inflicted on people who caused them to be
ostracized.
Note the school violence by students who feel left
out -- or "bullied." (022)
John (023)
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