Re: [ontolog-forum] English number of words/concepts that cannot be comp

[Steven Ericsson-Zenith <steven@xxxxxxx>]

Confusion over "symbol grounding" is not a pragmatists error (i.e., Peirce). 

It's not that words hold any intrinsic "meaning," it is that words produce a range of biophysical behaviors. It is these behaviors, and by them their "grounding," that may rightly be described as "meaning." 

Working from conventional dictionaries is futile, they are the record of usage. Dictionaries are independent of epistemology, there is no requirement that dictionaries be consistent (produce the same effects).

A minimum core set of ideas has little to do with language and has much more to do with mathematics.

Regards,

Steven

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On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 6:16 PM, joel luis carbonera <joelcarbonera@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Recently, I've read this interview with Prof. Stevan Harnad.

http://www.aass.oru.se/~sci/Interview%20Harnad.pdf

He was the first author that has explicitly discussed the so called "symbol grounding problem".

http://cogprints.org/3106/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbol_grounding

In that interview he said that in recent works, he and his collaborators analyze dictionaries for determining the properties of the smallest number of words from which all the rest can be dened by words alone.

I haven't read these works yet. But this idea led me to think about a "minimal core ontology" that would support all concepts that are represented in dictionaries.

Of course, it is important to notice that Harnad talks about words/symbols instead of concepts. So, I don't  know how useful his analisys for this purposes.

Also, I don't know how much this approach can be successful, due to the problem of defining concepts in the classical way (sufficient/necessary condicions).

Best regards.

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