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Re: [ontolog-forum] Introducing FRED -- OWL Ontology Generator

To: "'deddy'" <deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'[ontolog-forum] '" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Rich Cooper" <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:40:50 -0700
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+1
Every user has a different direction and velocity
of conceptualization, different store of
experiences, and a unique value system.  Why would
they use ANY set of symbols that are meaningful to
ontologists? What investment would each user have
to make to understand the ontology well enough to
be fluent in it?    (01)

Those kinds of issues affect usability and
therefore they affect feasibility of ontology
acceptance among users in the absence of their own
languages and tools.      (02)

-Rich      (03)

Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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OWL Ontology Generator    (04)

Kinglsey -    (05)

>
> Kingsley Idehen is a Person;
>    (06)

The sentence "Kingsly Idehen is a person" is
pretty much the same as "The technical name for
policy number is mstr-pol-
no."    (07)

A person has the name Kingsley Idehen.    (08)

A data element name meaning policy number is
mstr-pol-no.    (09)

That's pretty straight forward isn't it?    (010)



I would, as always, argue that if an (ontology)
tool is constrained to real language it's pretty
much useless around legacy 
systems since for a variety of entirely
non-negotiable reasons there are tremendous
amounts of un-natural language 
around said systems.    (011)

Or from another angle... acknowledging that
un-natural language is inherent to legacy systems
(again, this is 100% non-
negotiable, & the technical jargon of the
RDF/OWL/SPARQL/URI world is every bit as legacy as
a 43 year old PL/1 system), 
how does said un-natural language get woven into
ontology tools?    (012)

______________________
David Eddy
Legacy Software, Ltd.    (013)

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