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From: | Amanda Vizedom <amanda.vizedom@xxxxxxxxx> |
Date: | Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:25:57 -0500 |
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Sandro, I'm struck by some aspects of your question. My first reaction is a rather simple "of course" and "why not?" That is, I am curious as to why one would think that an ontology could not include individuals. I can't think of anything about ontologies in general that would suggest this. Of course, not everyone accepts the idea that "an ontology is a theory about a conceptualization." Personally, I think some ontologies are, or contain theories about conceptualizations -- one *can* model a conceptualization -- but this need not be useful. Rather, the ontological modeling toolkit, like any other modeling medium, can be used to model a wide range of things.
Second, I was struct by this phrasing "... usually refer to concepts; not to individuals." The assumption of disjointness here is what seems odd to me. Certainly, if you define "concept" to exclude individuals, it will be hard to see how individuals fit in a concept-based model. I'm also aware that certain sub-communities of ontologists use the English word "concept" for what other ontologists call "class" or "type" or "kind" or even "collection". I have seen this in particular biological ontology communities. Here, I think what is going on partially from the heritage of biological taxonomy, in which the taxonomic/ontological structure is a hierarchy of classes, and is separate from treatments of classification of individuals into those classes. Furthermore, the traditional subject matter is defined with sufficient narrowness that reference individuals (e.g., earth) are implicit.
Well, I'm only speculating on the cause. But I've observed the pattern, especially as it tends to generate clashes when ontologists who have worked only within such conventions join teams working in other domains with no such convention, or when there is a need to reuse or align bio ontologies that follow this convention with others (bio or other domain) that do not.
Beyond that, I agree with Alex's and John's points regarding special case individuals. In fact I am racking my brains for examples of real, in-application ontologies I've worked with that did not require such individuals.
It may be possible to create and use a very partial, very shallow ontology for some limited domain that does not contain any individuals, but I cannot think of an example in which this could be the case at the same time as the ontology has any formal depth. That is, if one takes a hard line that *no* individuals be included, a consequence seems to be that for many of the important classes and properties in the ontology, there will be little explicit semantics; defining and distinguishing features of those classes and properties will not be specified. This reduces the usefulness of such an ontology for many application, as well as maintainability. The more major concept definition is left implicit, the more interpretation will vary by user, over time, etc.
In any case, it is the norm IME to have at least some individuals. There is lots of variation regarding degree of inclusion of individuals. Reference individuals -- i.e., those in relation to which other concepts are defined -- are commonly included. Beyond that, it varies by the nature of the application and on choices between different abstract models of things like numbers (e.g., is a real number an individual? Is it a set? Are groups defined? Or only the sets of members of groups?)
In the end, there is not a crisp line but rather a continuum between ontologies and ontological knowledge bases. I see reasons for making practical choices of what to include in particular cases, but I don't see any principled reason for excluding individuals.
Amanda On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:25 PM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sandro and Alex, _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J (01) |
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