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From: Ed Barkmeyer <edbark@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 12:14:31 -0500
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Amanda is right.  We don't have to imagine enterprise horror stories, we remember them.
Imagine a demonstration automated manufacturing facility in which the chief architect did not talk to the 80 implementers
, except by memo, and every chief designer (9 component projects, including the DBA and communications) thought he had sufficient experience and common sense to ignore the others.  (After all, we are talking about engineers who think they are computer scientists or artists.)  I described the project design approach as "design for dis-integration" -- my subsystem demo will work when others fail; working with others is optional. 

-Ed

On 12/7/2012 10:53 AM, Amanda Vizedom wrote:
Sadly, John, some of us don't have to imagine this; we can remember it!

... it, or close variants in which, say, these groups are not in any single, identifiable department. And/or there isn't enough information flow between the groups to ignore...

*shakes head vigorously, returns gladly to the present*

Amanda


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/5/2012 10:52 AM, Rich Cooper wrote:
> Many of the things JFS has been saying in this topic thread relate to
> the separation of ontology from practice in IT.  I just read this
> Atlantic article on how imagined design is separated from practice in
> production.  It has a lot of analogous findings that may be more easily
> understood by ontologists in factory terms than in IT terms:
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-insourcing-boom/309166/?single_page=true

That's a good article.

Application to ontology:  You cannot separate the ontology of a system
from its design and implementation.

Imagine an IT department that had one group doing the architecture,
a second group doing the design, a third group doing the ontology,
and a fourth group doing the implementation.

There is only one way that department could produce a successful
system:  the chief implementer might have enough experience and
common sense to ignore the other three.

John



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