I think that a lot of the discussion is about proprietary projects.
Watson was a big one.
Many of the projects and technologies that John raises were commercial
projects (perhaps done for government) or used products owned by IBM or
others. (01)
I think that your frequent reminders that information released in this
forum or posted to the forum will be considered to be in the public
domain is very helpful. (02)
I just do not want people to be reluctant to talk about projects for
which they or their company got paid since those are the ones where the
client did recognize the value of the technology and was persuaded to
pay for it. (03)
I do not mind hearing about successful commercial products that advance
the state of the art.
I may not buy them, but I still like to hear about them.
They are at least inspiring! (04)
But that is just me and I certainly do not want to see the forum become
a pitchman's paradise. (05)
Ron (06)
On 14/11/2012 2:48 PM, Peter Yim wrote:
> Dear Piotr,
>
> Thank you very much for the clarification.
>
> Regards. =ppy
>
> p.s. Ron & All, we do discuss proprietary tools and project, on
> occasions here, but only under specials waivers, such as these:
> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2011_02_10#nid2MXM
> or http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2010_02_25#nid292U
> --
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Piotr Nowara <piotrnowara@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> the content of the website I linked in my initial message is intended to be
>> open-source - one can find the license information in the source files and
>> on my project's homepage: http://code.google.com/p/linked-facts/.
>>
>> I want to keep this software (the OWL-to-SQL interpreter with associated
>> Protégé plugins and OWL files) open-source and to allow their use in the
>> commercial projects under the terms of Mozilla Public License 1.1. The
>> reason I mentioned about the "commercial project" is that I wanted to
>> emphasize my intention to share an ontology-based solution capable to be
>> deployed in a real business scenario. I’m sorry for the confusion.
>>
>> I have already started to upload the source code. I plan to prepare a
>> tutorial on how to configure and deploy my software and publish it on my
>> website but if anyone is interested I can provide some details before I
>> manage to prepare detailed documentation. My main goal now is to reach to
>> potential users or contributors and hear your opinions about this project.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Piotr Nowara
>
>> 2012/11/14 Ron Wheeler <rwheeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> I am not sure what Peter was referring to as IPR policy.
>>> I reread it just to be sure.
>>>
>>> I read it to say that anything contributed is open but not things that
>>> you talk about.
>>> We talk about lots of non-open source tools.
>>>
>>> In addition, I understood Piotr's comment to say that his tool was open
>>> source.
>>> He was looking for others to help out.
>>>
>>> It is being used in a commercial project but that is pretty common with
>>> most of the people here.
>>> We frequently discuss projects that produce proprietary results.
>>> Some use commercial tools and some use open source.
>>>
>>> Did I miss something?
>>>
>>> Ron
>
>>> On 14/11/2012 1:07 PM, Jack Park wrote:
>>>> Out of curiosity, is the link at the bottom
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/linked-facts/ the actual code being discussed
>>>> here?
>>>>
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Piotr,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you (or, at the least, is your intent to) open sourcing the
>>>>> tool/technology?
>>>>>
>>>>> You might note that this is an "open" community - see our IPR Policy
>>>>> at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32
>>>>>
>>>>> If [your] work will stay being "commercial", then this is probably not
>>>>> the right venue to discuss it. Feel free to email me offline if you
>>>>> have further questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Yim
>>>>> Co-convenor, ONTOLOG
>>>>> --
>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Piotr Nowara <piotrnowara@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear ontologists,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have developed an open-source software for translating ontology
>>>>>> based
>>>>>> descriptions of facts into SQL queries. Currently it’s based on a set
>>>>>> of OWL
>>>>>> ontologies and a configurable JAVA software that can be easily adapted
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>> specific use scenario. It enables to create detailed definitions of
>>>>>> facts in
>>>>>> their temporal context by writing simple sentences based on the
>>>>>> provided
>>>>>> vocabulary. The result is a hierarchical system of categories that can
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> automatically translated into SQL queries and used in reporting, data
>>>>>> extraction, ad-hoc analysis etc. Below [1] is a link to a short video
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> demonstrates one of many ways of how this solution can be used. I have
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> started a website[2] where I intend to gradually share information on
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> configure and deploy my software
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to learn more details please send me a message. My
>>>>>> long-term
>>>>>> goal is to make this software accessible for a wider community so I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> decided to look for potential users and/or contributors. Currently I'm
>>>>>> deploying this solution in a commercial project in healthcare domain
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> it will be used for storing and integrating knowledge gathered from
>>>>>> data-mining tools and transforming it to a set of easy-to-use SQL
>>>>>> queries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Piotr Nowara
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDKtQkriRgI
>>>>>> [2] http://code.google.com/p/linked-facts/
>
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