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From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:37:38 -0800
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Dear Rich,    (01)

> [RC] > Peter, what exactly are the other goals of Ontolog Forum, as you
> define them?    (02)

[ppy] it's not my definition. The community, at some point, adopted
the ONTOLOG charter.
Again, please see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB    (03)

Regards. =ppy
--    (04)


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Rich Cooper
<rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
>
> You wrote:
>
> PY
>
>> I would like to point out that your statement, "The major goal
>> of Ontolog Forum is to develop logic-based methods for representing
>> and using formal ontologies," represents only part of the ONTOLOG
>> mission...
>
>
> JFS wrote:
>
> Yes.  I admit that it is much too short to cover everything.  My only
> excuse is that I was trying to be brief.
>
>
> Peter, what exactly are the other goals of Ontolog Forum, as you define
> them?
>
>
> -Rich
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Rich Cooper
> EnglishLogicKernel.com
> Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
> 9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2    (05)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John F Sowa
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:14 PM
> To: ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: Breaking news: GoodRelations now fully
> integrated with schema.org!
>
>
>
> Peter, Kingsley, Doug, and Ed,
>
>
> Before commenting on your comments, I'd like to remind everyone that
> what is now called the Semantic Web represents just a small subset of
> the vision that Tim Berners-Lee presented in his proposal of Feb 2000.
>
>
> In that proposal, Tim explicitly addressed the issues that Ed raises.
> He didn't present a complete solution, but he summarized the issues,
> and he outlined the directions that needed further development.  See
> the excerpt the end of this note.
>
>
>
> PY
>
>> I would like to point out that your statement, "The major goal
>> of Ontolog Forum is to develop logic-based methods for representing
>> and using formal ontologies," represents only part of the ONTOLOG
>> mission...
>
>
> Yes.  I admit that it is much too short to cover everything.  My only
> excuse is that I was trying to be brief.
>
>  ...[snip]...    (06)


---------- original message ----------
From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: Breaking news: GoodRelations now
fully integrated with schema.org!
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>    (07)


John,    (08)

While I seldom disagree with with you, I would like to point out that
your statement, "The major goal of Ontolog Forum is to develop
logic-based methods for representing and using formal ontologies,"
represents only part of the ONTOLOG mission.    (09)

I would defer to the ONTOLOG Charter - see:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB
... which, among other things, states that, at the Ontolog Forum, we will:
"Discuss practical issues and strategies associated with the
development and application of both formal and informal ontologies."
... and, of course, consistent with what both you and w3c folks are
pushing (albeit in different manners), we will:
"Strive to advance the field of ontological engineering and semantic
technologies, and to help move them into main stream applications."    (010)

Thanks & regards. =ppy
Peter Yim
Co-convener, ONTOLOG
--    (011)


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:12 AM, John F Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Kingsley and Paul,
>
> The major goal of Ontolog Forum is to develop logic-based methods for
> representing and using formal ontologies.  ...[snip]...    (012)

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