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Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: Breaking news: GoodRelations now fully integrat

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:32:29 -0500
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On 11/10/12 3:32 PM, John F Sowa wrote:
> On 11/012 6:07 PM, Martin Hepp wrote:
>> Effective immediately, the full GoodRelations vocabulary for e-commerce
>> (http://purl.org/goodrelations/) is now directly available from schema.org,
>> the official library of data schemas maintained and promoted by the four
>> biggest Web search engines, i.e. Google, Bing, Yahoo, and Yandex.
> Congratulations!  This is an important step toward bringing ontologies
> into the mainstream of IT.
>
> I'd also like to point out that the representation of GoodRelations
> in OWL is still available, but that Schema.org supports only the tiny
> subset of OWL that most people actually use:
>
>   From http://wiki.goodrelations-vocabulary.org/Cookbook/Schema.org
>> GoodRelations will include mapping axioms so that an RDF environment
>> with minimal reasoning support (rdfs:subclassOf, rdfs:subPropertyOf,
>> owl:equivalentClass, owl:equivalentProperty, owl:sameAs) can operate
>> on the data purely from the GoodRelations namespace.
> This is a minimal amount of logic that is compatible with almost
> anything, including the legacy systems that have been successfully
> interoperating for the past 50 years.
>
> Fundamental principles:
>
>    1. Schema.org hits a very simple "sweet spot" in knowledge
>       representation that programmers and other IT professionals
>       can immediately understand without any special training.
>
>    2. It is sufficiently underspecified that it does not create
>       any conflicts with more specialized languages and systems,
>       either declarative or procedural.
>
>    3. Instead of URIs or IRIs that point to unreadable and unread
>       definitions somewhere on the WWW, Schema.org uses readable
>       names that are self-defining (or nearly so).
>
> By comparison, OWL hits a "sour spot" in knowledge representation:
>
>    1. Nobody can use OWL without a training course or an extended
>       amount of self study.  Even the very limited subset that most
>       people use has stumbling blocks that are inconsistent with
>       the conventions that programmers and webmasters know and use.
>
>    2. Going beyond that limited subset requires a great deal
>       of further study, and anything specified in the superset
>       will not be automatically mapped into the mainstream
>       programming languages.  In other words, it's useless.
>
>    3. Using unreadable URIs or IRIs destroys readability.  Users do
>       not want to and will never go to some remote location to study
>       a cryptic definition in some unreadable notation with some
>       unnecessarily complicated syntactic conventions.
>
>    4. Finally, OWL is so limited in its expressive power that it
>       cannot be used by itself to implement applications.  For any
>       practical application, OWL is always used in conjunction with
>       a more expressive, undecidable, Turing-complete language.
>       Forcing OWL itself to be decidable is of no practical value.
>
> There is a need for more expressive power in logic-based languages.
> The SQL WHERE-clause shows that programmers are willing and able
> to learn and use a query language with the full expressive power
> of first-order logic.  Various kinds of rule-based languages
> show that people are able to learn and use the Horn-clause
> subset of logic in practical applications.
>
> Recommendation:  Schema.org is the wave of the future.  Any work on
> formal ontologies and the Semantic Web should embrace and build on
> the simple versions specified in Schema.org.  I recommend that the
> W3C should work with Schema.org to make it an integral part of the
> SW strategy.
>
> John Sowa    (01)

John,    (02)

Recommendation has been long accepted. The W3C does work with Schema.org :-)    (03)

Kingsley
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