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Re: [ontolog-forum] Fwd: Re: Using controlled natural languages for onto

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From: FERENC KOVACS <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 19:50:32 +0000 (GMT)
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JS: That ambiguity is not "inherent" in NLs,
but it is the result of using NLs by an open-ended community of
people with different backgrounds, needs, interests, and goals.    (01)

FK This fact is represneetd in connections called relations - other tah 
or algeraic.
So the real problem is to find a common denominator for making domain 
interoperable. The job has to be started from top down, provided that the 
conceptualisation is correct. Looking at SUMO and the Italian profesors slides 
maintain that the model is bleeding.    (02)

JS: I do not believe that a broad-coverage detailed ontology of everything is 
possible or desirable.
FK You need not have to have a broad-coverage detailed ontolopgy of eevrything 
if you do not stick to the way your semantic primitives, i.e the concept of 
objects, properties and relations are used to make up a model with non semantic 
primitives (including events, situations etc.!!). Among other things it is not 
clear for a great many people that there are three different variables that all 
have independent lives to be synchronised and regularly updated, namely the 
objects themselves, the names of such objects (the sign, token, denotator 
paradgims) and teh concepts of objects that are in the mind of the poeple - 
naturally all different. So what you have in addition to those three is the 
of the concepts and the properties of the objects that are referred to by that 
name (sign) and by that concept. Unless you do not have a system or model to 
align your different concpets in your different frame of mind through a common 
notation for the same objects (identity) through the use of the same wording 
the same phsical object reference (timespace) also tied together, you suck    (03)

"our attention becomes structured by external demands. In more intimate 
encounters, the level of both challenges and skills can grow very high. Thus, 
interactions have many of the characteristics of flow activities, and they 
certainly require the orderly investment of mental energy. The strong effects 
of     (04)

companionship on the quality of experience suggest that investing energy in 
relationships is a good way to improve life." Mihály 
Csíkszentmihályi"http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/199707/finding-flow?page=3    (05)

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