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Re: [ontolog-forum] Interesting observation about OWL ontologies

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From: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:04:15 -0500
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On 1/13/11 9:34 AM, John F. Sowa wrote:
> Correction!
>
> I was too hasty in sending off the previous note in this thread
> (copy below).
>
> I overlooked the fact that the SPARQL query had the same variable
> ?x in both the first and third positions:  (?x ?p ?x).
>
> In other words, the author of the query was looking for examples
> that used any symmetric relation.  There are many ontologies
> in NCBO BioPortal that are used for important applications.    (01)

John,    (02)

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Kingsley
> John
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ontolog-forum] Interesting observation about OWL ontologies
> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:17:49 -0500
> From: John F. Sowa
>
> At the end of this note is a comment that was sent to a mailing list
> concerning metadata standards by SC32WG2.
>
> I have previously made the observation that many people who use OWL
> don't use anything that goes beyond Aristotle's syllogisms.  I cited
> the BFO ontology as an example, but I had never done a thorough
> analysis of any large collection of OWL ontologies.
>
> But the following observation shows that of the 202 registered
> ontologies in the NCBO BioPortal, the *only* relation used in
> their triples is rdfs:subClassOf -- i.e., those "ontologies"
> are just trivial hierarchies of undefined terms.
>
> This leads to several observations:
>
>     1. Many so-called ontologies written in OWL are nothing more than
>        lists of terms organized in a simple hierarchy -- i.e., they
>        should be called *terminologies* rather than ontologies.
>
>     2. The people who have been writing those ontologies never saw any
>        use for any of the formal methods supported by OWL for defining
>        terms and reasoning about them.
>
>     3. They were probably pushed into using OWL by some higher level
>        executives who were sold on OWL by hype encoded in glossy slides
>        with no supporting evidence.
>
>     4. But the resulting so-called ontologies *cannot* be used for any
>        kind of reasoning that goes beyond what could have been done
>        with the original terminologies written in ordinary English.
>
> And by the way, I realize that there are useful applications of OWL
> when implemented by people who know what they're doing.  But large
> numbers of people who have no idea what they should be doing have
> been pushed into using a technology they don't understand.
>
> As a result, huge amounts of time, money, and the expertise of
> highly-paid professionals have been flushed down the drain for
> no useful purpose.
>
> John Sowa
>
> --- Additional Comments From kdkeck@xxxxxxx  2011-01-12 11:49 ET ---
>
> I've used SPARQL to query the NCBO BioPortal for any statements
> of the form (?x ?p ?x).  The only statements of that form found,
> out of 202 registered ontologies, had p=rdfs:subClassOf.  Such
> assertions are strictly redundant--ALL classes are subclasses
> of themselves, by definition.
>
>
>
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