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From: Niemann.Brand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 08:25:42 -0400
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With regard to say linking chemical element definitions to TRI data, I
did my own Data.gov Mashathon doing that at
http://epadata.wik.is/TRI_2009
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Brand
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P.S. Rick, I look forward to see the video since I did not see or hear
much about the Data.gov mashathon. Is there a Web site for it?
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Best regards, Brand
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  From:       Rick Murphy <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>                                     (05)



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  Date:       08/31/2010 10:17 PM                                                   (07)



  Subject:    Re: [ontolog-forum] Semantic Enterprise Architecture                  (08)








Ravi & All:
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You had asked for some thoughts on Linked Open Data. First, thanks for
asking. Second, if Peter Patel-Schneider's story of the Semantic Web is
a Cautionary Tale,
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-661464686397234947#
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then LOD may well be the Fairy Story. Joking aside, if you have a meme,
it will spread. Apparently this one is. There's a lot more to be said,
but here's a message I recently sent to another forum.
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--
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David & All:
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It seems there's a conversation trying to start itself on what LOD
actually is. Ouch ...
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While taking the risk of suggesting something more than that on which
we've already gained agreement (an lod design principle), I wanted to
share a few observations relevant to future directions for LOD.
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1. I had about 60 days to examine LOD full time in 2009 early in the
development of recovery.gov at which time I differentiated the roles
publisher and linker. Differentiating these roles proved useful in
better analyzing LOD outcomes. For example, assuming decentralize
publishing by ARRA recipients at least a "minimal intervention" would be
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required to effect a predetermined outcome by linkers. How else would,
let's say 50 states, make sufficiently consistent choices separately
that would be later linked? I think this needs to be further examined.
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As an aside, there may be a video available soon from the recent datagov
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mashathon where I demonstrate the Data Typing by Usage pattern from
Working Ontologist to "link" a recipient ontology and an xbrl ontology
of an SEC filer through subproperty subsumption. The inference that a
certain SEC Filer is an ARRA Recipient was the salient point.
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2. My second observation from the recovery.gov work is the need to
develop an approach to "edge specifications." An edge specification is
an assembly from preexisting vocabularies and possibly new elements into
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a whole. The idea is to identify a specification development approach
for LOD that's different from a "core specification" where already known
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terms are redefined. At the edge they are reused.
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There's a brief mention in footnote 10 here ...
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http://www.talis.com/nodalities/pdf/nodalities_issue9.pdf
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FWIW - For those who haven't seen it, here's the original use case from
for Open Government: Linked Open Data, published just a few days after
the US election on December 2, 2008 .
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http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Use_Case_8_-_Linked_Open_Government
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BTW - has anyone tried to "link" DbPedia to, let's say, Metaweb on
Chemical element?
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--
Rick
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On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 10:09 -0400, ravi sharma wrote:
> Rick

>

> As you might recall I was tuned in to that wonderful effort closely

> and yes George is contributing to Health Services Architectures.

>

> Can you kindly give us a view of how you see that effort tied to

>       * Linked Open Data

>       * Semantic Web

>       * Ontology - integration,

> at least in Government / Federal EA space.

>

> Also on the thread dealing with DODAF - DM2 and Ontic Foundation of

> DODAF 2.0 still are not semantically or through ontology integrated;

> and their roadmap is not clear?

>

> Thanks.

> Ravi

>

> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Rick Murphy <rick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> wrote:

>         Ian:

>

>         Readers of the TQ paper will notice references to GSA, the

>         sponsoring agency. Between 2004 and 2009 our team had the

>         opportunity to examine the relevance of semantics to

>         enterprise architecture at a reasonable level of financial and

>         management support. With a change in leadership that support

>         was lost.

>

>         Thankfully, we placed some of our work in an open source

>         repository so others could take advantage of the tax dollars

>         that funded this effort.

>

>         http://osera.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/osera/

>

>         Unfortunately, what's available in the repository represents

>         only part of our team's work. Our most promising work extended

>         well beyond model driven architecture and the semantic web,

>         though we did a LOT of that. The Information Flow Framework,

>         Category Theory and Goguen and Burstall's Institutions became

>         part of the core team's understanding.

>

>         As I reflect on those five amazing years and what has followed

>         since, I am resolved to follow the truth instead of a trend

>         and thankful that the government has a leader in George

>         Thomas.

>

>         --

>         Rick

>

>

>

>         On 8/22/2010 4:18 AM, Ian Bailey wrote:

>         >

>         > Hi,

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > The defence departments of Australia, Canada, Sweden, UK and

>         > US have been working on a formal ontology to support their

>         > enterprise architecture efforts – www.ideasgroup.org

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > All we’ve released so far is the foundation -

>         > http://www.ideasgroup.org/foundation/ - but quite a bit more

>         > has been done on building patterns for processes, agents,

>         > information, systems, capabilities, etc. The foundation has

>         > been used to underpin the DoDAF 2.0 meta-model (DM2) –

>         > though the resulting meta-model isn’t what most people would

>         > recognise as an ontology. The Swedish Armed Forces are

>         > investigating how the MODAF Meta-Model (currently a UML

>         > Profile) could be re-engineered into a formal ontology based

>         > on IDEAS.

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > John Zachman was over in the UK in March for the

>         > Integrated-EA conference and had some discussions with UK

>         > MOD on ontology and enterprise architecture. From the brief

>         > conversations I had with him, he seemed very enthusiastic

>         > about ontology in general.

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > At the same conference, Jonathan Carter and Jason Powell

>         > presented on an open-source approach to EA development using

>         > Protege – see http://www.integrated-ea.com/Previous-Years

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > Back in 2007, I presented on ontology and EA at the Open

>         > Group and EA Europe conferences – slides are here:

>         > http://www.modelfutures.com/Publications/

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > That, and the paper from Top Quadrant (which has already

>         > been mentioned in this thread) are the only efforts I’m

>         > aware of for “semantic EA”.

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         > Hope this helps

>         >

>         > --

>         >

>         > Ian Bailey

>         >

>         > Model Futures

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         >

>         >

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