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## Re: [ontolog-forum] Triadic Sign Relations

 To: "'[ontolog-forum] '" "Rich Cooper" Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:38:02 -0700 <20100815033807.82F29138D03@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Jon,   Thanks, so you teach that the "interpretant" (which is a noun) is actually naming an "interpreter" agent?  That contradicts intuition and seems odd.    It seems odd specifically to name an active agent, performing the said interpretation, as a noun agent instead of as a performer of action verb agent, specifically the "interpreter" if said interpretant wishes to participate in the said discussion of naming the entire interpretation.     That confuses me no end if Peirceans can’t tie the theory to some commonly understood reality for me.  Is there a more fruitful description that explains the language used and chosen for that representation?   Thanks, -Rich   Sincerely, Rich Cooper EnglishLogicKernel.com Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com 9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2   -----Original Message----- From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jon Awbrey Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:11 PM To: [ontolog-forum] Subject: [ontolog-forum] Triadic Sign Relations   Rich,   A ''sign relation'' is a set of elementary sign relations, each of which is an ordered triple of the form (o, s, i). In each triple, o is the "object", s is the "sign", and i is the "interpretant sign", or "interpretant" for short. Another way of saying this is that a sign relation L is a subset of the cartesian product O x S x I of three sets, called the "object domain" O, the "sign domain" S, and the "interpretant (sign) domain" I.   That is the basic structure of a sign relation, to which may be added many other dimensions of interest, for instance, determination in time or relative clarity of signs and interpretants.   As far as an "interpreter", "interpretive agent", or "process of interpretation" is relevant to the theory of sign relations, it may be identified with the whole of some particular sign relation.   Cf. http://planetmath.org/encyclopedia/SignRelation.html   Jon Awbrey   > John, > > While reading Peirce and related materials, I get a little uncertain over > the terminology that different writers use.  It seems to me that there is > ONLY ONE relation that requires three entries, and it contains the following > properties: > > Interpretation event comprises: > - "Sign" which is a distinct physical manifestation, communicable, object; > - "Referent" the interpretation placed on the sign object; > - "Interpretant" agent who interprets sign as referent in her belief system. > > > Do I have the terms right, or do you (and/or others) used different terms > for those three roles? > > Is the relation usually called "Interpretation" by Peirceans, or is there a > preferred term for that triple also? > > Thanks for clarifying, > -Rich > > Sincerely, > Rich Cooper > EnglishLogicKernel.com > Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com > 9 4 9 \ 5 2 5 - 5 7 1 2   --   inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ mwb: http://www.mywikibiz.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey knol: http://knol.google.com/k/-/-/3fkwvf69kridz/1 oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey   _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/  Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/  Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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