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Re: [ontolog-forum] Foundation ontology, CYC, and Mapping

 To: "[ontolog-forum]" "doug foxvog" Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:59:49 -0000 (GMT) <1096.89.101.4.18.1266523189.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 ```Rob Freeman wrote > ... > Pat C: 'Perhaps you could provide more detail for your alternative method >> of >> achieving general accurate semantic interoperability? The sentence above >> conjures up nothing concrete in my imagination. How does one "implement >> interoperability based on overlaps between sets [of observations]"???'    (01) > Actually, what I am proposing ... won't be a theory > at all, not a single one. What I think can be the objective arbiter > are *observations* about the real world. The only trick is we must > accept these same observations can lead to different, contradictory, > theories.    (02) > We can keep mathematics. Mathematics just becomes another (ultimately > contradictory) interpretation of real-world observations.    (03) Mathematics can be applied to real-world observations. Features of the real world can be mapped to symbols that can be operated on mathematically; and mathematical operations can be correlated with real-world processes. If the correlations are reasonable, then mathematical operations can yield new information about the real world objects.    (04) I don't see this as a mathematical interpretation of the observations, but a mathematical modeling of the observations, processing of the model, and interpretation of the result of the processing back to the real world.    (05) > On one level, to provide something concrete to relate the discussion > to, you can think of what I am proposing as case-based reasoning. > There are differences with the way case-based reasoning is usually > practiced today. We would not assume a finite, non-contradictory > solution set for a start. But as an initial intuition for how such a > model would work, case-based reasoning gives you some idea.    (06) This sounds good.    (07) > It may be moot anyway, because John's "catch-all" project may be > sufficiently broad to resolve most of the disputes of interest to > Ontolog members.    (08) It seems to allow for your proposals as well.    (09) > If the entire list is willing to get behind a project which takes as > its grounding principle that there is no single complete theory, that > may be the best we can hope for at this stage, and I would like to > encourage that.    (010) I am finding a lot of agreement with this. I hope we can all support John's proposal.    (011) -- doug foxvog    (012) > ... > -Rob    (013) ============================================================= doug foxvog doug@xxxxxxxxxx http://ProgressiveAustin.org    (014) "I speak as an American to the leaders of my own nation. The great initiative in this war is ours. The initiative to stop it must be ours." - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. =============================================================    (015) _________________________________________________________________ Message Archives: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/ Config Subscr: http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontolog-forum/ Unsubscribe: mailto:ontolog-forum-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Shared Files: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/ Community Wiki: http://ontolog.cim3.net/wiki/ To join: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid1J To Post: mailto:ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx    (016) ```
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