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[ontolog-forum] form and content

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From: FERENC KOVACS <f.kovacs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:12:03 +0000 (GMT)
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What is form and object with respect to a point?
A point (by Wikipedia)
In geometry, topology and related branches of mathematics a spatial point describes a specific object within a given space that consists of neither volume, area, length, nor any other higher dimensional analogue. Thus, a point is a 0-dimensional object. Because of their nature as one of the simplest geometric concepts, they are often used in one form or another as the fundamental constituents of geometry, physics, vector graphics, and many other fields.
"A point is an exact position or location on a plane surface. It is important to understand that a point is not a thing, but a place." http://www.mathopenref.com/point.html
But in reality locations are taken up by visible mass (kept together by unseen forces), objects exist in space time continuum, we believe.
For practical purposes you make a cross to indicate a point, but you cannot do that to draw a circle from a point on the parameter, hence a circle in reality can never be complete - at least in terms of, or as a product of its radius and an integer. Inifinity is there illustrated.
Therefore if we do not know something, we do not see, recognize, identify, etc. its form. We may know its content, such as its properties (taking up space). And therefore the final identifiers of anything existing are its space-time parameters, both expressed as numbers, in other words FORMS. And then only and final difference existing between forms will always be reduced to numbers, especially size, or equal and greater than relations that we become aware of by ROTE learning again, when we learn to count up to ten and so forth as a child. By memorizing the numbers we acquire a tool for tallying, and we can only visualize addition diagrammatically, we cannot do that with multiplication and we learn the times table by rote learning again, not by applying some logic or "algebraic" operations

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