Re: [ontolog-forum] Just What Is an Ontology, Anyway?

[Pavithra <pavithra_kenjige@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dave,

 

Its true, we have had such invention in the past!   The next layer that gives a smooth, virtual  interface  for that moment in time., . Some got recongnised, but some just passed by...

 

The person who wrote " ping" ip address  was one of them.  That is how one  machine talks another on the network !

 

-  GUI interface was one such product

 

Apple machintosh provided a windows overlaping virtual layer..   They did not get a Nobel prize or all those honors either

 

It was sun work station that provided unix based windows interface, and ability to  multitask.  They did not get a nobel prize either.

 

-HTML was such an invention - So we can give credit to Tim Berner Lee.. since the world claims that he did it..

 

- Internet browser was one of such invention  (

 

Netscape was one of first products that provided a browser to public who could use the internet..  - However these people did not get a nobel prise, nor got noticed ...  eventually got replaced by a copycat - internet explorer..

 

 

- Wireless broad band connection that provides data/voice/vedio exchange is one such interface...

 

 

- "Intranet" provided such virtual interface / overlapping layer,  local to an orgnization...  but the data is owned by one organization.. with known data / technology models..

 

- There are some Semenatic Web / Virtual reality products that have  many Semantic Web  features  already...    

 

I am not saying that it is not impossible.,  I am just saying, interoperability ( the underlying layer..) has its challenges..   

 

Regards,

Pavithra

 

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--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Dave McComb <mccomb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Dave McComb <mccomb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Just What Is an Ontology, Anyway?
To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 9:47 PM

For the first 15 of those 50 years we concerned ourselves with what were the best 12 fields to put on that 80 column card.

Since then we got to the point where tens of thousands of attributes was a small system.  And then we consumed ourselves with integrating these systems.

It's really a scale issue.  The human mind has difficulty dealing with the complexity we've created. 

Ontologies, in my mind, offer a way to help sort, categorize and organize the chaos we've created.  We have to integrate the old with the new as we go forward, but this isn't as hard as it sounds.  SOA has given us the general technological approach, Semantics is adding a layer of rationalization on top.


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From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Eddy [deddy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 6:41 PM
To: [ontolog-forum]
Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Just What Is an Ontology, Anyway?

Mike -

On Oct 26, 2009, at 8:14 PM, Mike Bennett wrote:

> Agreed. If you want systems within an enterprise to interact, the
> starting point is an enterprise ontology.


We've been building enterprise information systems for 50+ years with
nary a mention of ontologies.  Why do we need ontologies now?


Or from another perspective... IF ontologies are useful, how are we
going to construct said ontologies for existing systems?  Only build
ontologies for "new" systems & wait for the old systems to be
replaced?  That will take decades.

Who's going to PAY for discovering these ontologies?

- David




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