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From: Gary Berg-Cross <gary.berg-cross@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:43:00 -0400
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From time to tine the group has had discussions and notes on Geospatial topics.  Some members of the Ontology community participated in the


June 20 -22, 2006 event at NSF – on “Open Collaboration: Networking Geospatial Information Technology for Interoperability and Spatial Ontology”




Based on this a Community of Practice was set up to encourage work on geospatial Ontology.  We took the name SOCoP and have been holding monthly meetings, organizing demos and workshops .


We are planning our 2nd annual this November at MITRE and I’ll have an official announcement about this soon.  But I wanted to ask this community about a topic that we plan to discuss there.  The topic is one of “frameworks” and/or “Reference Models”  (RM) for geospatial ontology.


Frameworks abound in traditional IT model and IT architecture areas. These are used to define standard model products, methodology, relevant tools, best practices etc.


The Open Geospatial Consortium Inc. (OGC) has a reference model (http://www.opengeospatial.org/standards/orm) that “describes the OGC Standards Baseline focusing on relationships between” the baseline standard documents. The OGC Standards Baseline consists of the approved OpenGIS® Abstract and Implementation Standards. 


Carl Reed and Deb MacPherson have talked a bit about OGC things on this forum. A naive approach to creating a geospatial RM might be to take the OGC model as a start and “add formal semantics.”


My starting question is what people know about such Frameworks and RM’s and what their opinion on the practicality of this is. The Semantic Web stack is perhaps a place to look for some RM ideas, but it is not clear if this is the best place to start.  Is that a good idea and has anyone made significant process in doing that?


Any thoughts appreciated.


Gary Berg-Cross,Ph.D.
gbergcross@xxxxxxxxx      http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GaryBergCross
SOCoP Executive Secretary
Knowledge Strategies
Semantic Technology
Potomac, MD

Portions of earlier “discussions”


 Deborah"  Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:28:24 -0400

Thank you Carl, I will forward this to some folks to avoid duplication of

effort and look forward to reading the OGC materials provided.     (01)


Regards, Deborah    (02)


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Jumping into the middle of the discussion, but 2 years ago the OGC did a really

interesting  OGC Web Services interoperability test bed scenario in this

domain. On-line interactive demonstrations can be found at

http://www.opengeospatial.org/pub/www/ows4/demo.html check out the "About OWS

4" and then go to "Demonstrations" and then click on the "Emergency Response"

scenario. The scenario was defined by a collaborative group of individuals from

the geospatial, CAD, building/BIM, and emergency services community. The work

was coordinated with the BIM community. There is also a really good OGC paper

on this topic area that can be freely downloaded from the OGC website (dated


http://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=21622 .    (04)


My take is that there is a considerable amount of useful information and

lessons learned available through the OGC interoperability activities.    (05)


FYI, the OGC is also closely collaborating with the buildingSmart alliance on

another interoperability activity.    (06)


There is also a W3C incubator activity looking at ontologies for emergency

services response.    (07)


Cheers    (08)




From: "Deborah MacPherson" <debmacp@xxxxxxxxx>

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:13 AM

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> Yes, I was thinking about all three: address, coordinates, reference

> to other locations as all signifying one same location in three

> different ways.


> Please send links on standards I am dying of curiosity.


> Thank you,


> Debbie MacPherson


> On 1/15/07, Carl Reed OGC Account <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



>> Deborah's use of the word "location" triggered an alert in my mind. By

>> location, are you referring to an address, a location defined by

>> coordinates, or a location defined by reference or all three? The reason

>> I

>> ask is that there is a tremendous amount of standards work already done

>> that

>> allows simple _expression_ of location. There is also an excellent standard

>> for expressing location and temporal location. Finally, there is also

>> some

>> really strong standards work related to using web accessible registries

>> that

>> allow harvesting, maintenance, and discovery of location enabled

>> information.


>> Regards


>> Carl Reed

>> Open Geospatial Consortium


Sunday, October 08, 2006 12:38 PM

Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Top 5 Ontology Driven Applications


Thanks, Carl.

Rex Brooks and I are planning an Ontolog Forum Panel on Emergency Response in mid-January, 2007. The more info, the better frameworks, and hopefully semantic interoperability between Alerting Domains.

I live in Huntington Beach, California. Are you confusing me with Dave McComb, who does have a consulting firm, www.SemanticArts.com in old town, Ft. Collins, Co?



From: "Carl Reed OGC Account" <creed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 11:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] Top 5 Ontology Driven Applications

Bob -


I have been tied up the last several weeks getting ready for and running the recent OGC Technical Committee meetings (DC last week) so I did not have time to really follow this thread and look at the list.


A couple of comments -


1. CAP (Common Alerting Protocol), EDXL, and other alerting standards all fall into a higher level simply titled Alerting. There is considerable work being done on a variety of standards that can be used for citizen to authority and authority to citizen alerting. The OGC, OASIS, IETF, 3GPP, OMA, and  the ITU are all working on various aspects of the value chain for alerting. Most of the use cases driving alerting have to do with emergency services (from E-911 to response). Also, as such, these standards do not belong in health care but perhaps more appropriately in a bin called emergency management.


2. The OGC has an Information Community and Semantics Working group. They are currently rewriting their charter based on input from a joint incubator project being done with the W3C on Geospatial Semantics. The OGC has been involved in a variety of geospatial semantics projects over the years and many of our members have worked on ontologies/taxonomies in several information communities. A current example is our collaboration with the TDWG Spatial Data Subgroup (TDWG = International Working Group on Taxonomic Databases).


Finally, given that we appear to both be located in Fort Collins, perhaps we could meet sometime and talk about ontologies and the work of the OGC and our membership.





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