Thanks Matthew
Let me get back to this after I have done some experiments (lol)
cheers
PDM
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Paola,
understand thanks
please note that I have not problem with the fact that observable reality is
bounded by spatiotemporal continuum
just that some parts of reality are not observable
and yes, I can understany why an ontology would want to model the observable
world, for practical reasons
[MW] The point is that
things that are not considered observable are still spatio-temporal extents
that are part of some spatio-temporal continuum, unless they are sets
(according to 4D anyway). So it is not a matter of wanting only to model the
observable world, it is about how things are understood to be.
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Dear Paola,
Ontologies differ in the way
they approach what you think of as intangibles. Some of them have
specific things that would claim to be intangible, others do not.
For 4D ontologies like IDEAS
and ISO 15926, everything is either a spatio-temporal extent (possible or
actual) and sets (including relations).
So I will not talk for others,
but I will say what the list below is from a 4D perspective.
I understand that most intangibles can be
associated with a tangible countepart
even the wind, which we cannot touch, is indeed a physical phenomenon
however, things exist that are abstract, ie, do not have physical qualities
I can make a list but surely you can come up with a list too
emotions (okay, sweat and heartbeat are indicators of emotions but not emotions
themselves)
ideas
[MW]
This is usually some sort of plan of how things could be, so we are into
possible worlds (or John's version of them)
Thoughts
[MW]
Thinking is an activity that goes on in a spatio-temporal location, and a
thought is presumably the result of this, and is a state of, perhaps part of,
someone's brain.
Beliefs
[MW]
Beliefs would usually be about rules that are followed. So the rules would be
around some classes, and the belief part is about how someone views those
rules.
Regards
Matthew
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