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From: paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:42:41 -0700
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forgot to say:    (01)

 you may want to look at  fresnel/simile,    (02)

http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/Bizer2006kl.pdf    (03)

www.w3.org/2005/04/fresnel-info/manual    (04)

would be interested to have your feedback    (05)

PDM    (06)

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:03 PM,  <paola.dimaio@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> John
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:37 PM, John Graybeal <graybeal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have a few practical implementation approach issues when dealing
>> with ontology term URIs.  Is this an appropriate forum for asking such
>> questions, or if not, can you suggest a better one?  As my project is
>> putting together on ontology repository, we are creating a mechanism
>> to resolve URLs that are used for terms, so we are forced to flatten
>> many philosophical and strategic questions into more mundane
>> practicalities.
> sounds  like engineering ....
> I am evaluating  ontology repository architectures, in fact, I am
> trying to work out how can the concept of ' centralized repository'
> be reconciled with the notion of 'linked data model' , my conclusion
> so far is that a repository cannot be centralized without conflicting
> with the core notion of distributed model as the LDM, not without
> convolution   the web is the repository for ontology, if we have the
> right representation and querying mechanisms, and thats a central idea
> to the semantic web. But maybe your approach is distributed?
>> For example, the first issue is as follows:  My understanding is that
>> fragment identifiers are used for RDF resources to indicate the term.
>> But browsers are not built to handle/resolve/present RDF/OWL
>> resources, or to display particular terms from them -- they will just
>> download the URI resource as a file and that's that.
> there are several tools/environments being built to support various kinds of
> ontological data viewing, editing and querying ,
> Can anyone point
>> me to existing examples where the server can present the results of a
>> URL like
>>   http://mmisw.org/ont/mmi/200807/phenomena#wind_speed
>> so that the user sees a page in their browser on the term wind_speed
>> (either exclusively, or at least at the top of the page)?
> isn't that what Tabulator is supposed to do? I have heard of
> rhodonite, and brown sauce have similar functions
> search for 'URI browser'  or 'rdf browser' - they are designed to
> interact with data expressed as rdf, but i am not too sure about what
> level of granularity (level of fragment) they support, please let us
> know what you find out if you look into it
> However, if you have a specific interface or functional requirement in
> mind such as import/export of individual fragments, or how the value
> of the fragment should be displayed/visualized and stored (make local
> copy tc), please specify it so that we use it as input for further
> development of products
>> (It would be so nice if the URL could replace the '#' with a '/', but
>> then it wouldn't be a nice RDF term URI, would it?)
> i dont think machine has such preferences...:-)
> but for humans it should be easy to have a friendly tag masking the
> ugly uri syntax, if the hash bothers you
>> I can imagine how to do this but I'd like to leverage any other effort
>> in the community, if such exists.
> there exist a few, thus at different stages of development and
> flavours, and each with their own set of quirks
> please share your findings..
>> John
>> --------------
>> John Graybeal   <mailto:graybeal@xxxxxxxxx>  -- 831-775-1956
>> Monterey Bay Aquarium Research Institute
>> Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: http://marinemetadata.org
>  lovely place monterey bay
> --
> Paola Di Maio
> School of IT
> www.mfu.ac.th
> *********************************************
>    (07)

Paola Di Maio
School of IT
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