Azamat
Thanks - great observations, more comments after reflection. (01)
Ravi (02)
(Dr. Ravi Sharma) Senior Enterprise Architect (03)
Vangent, Inc. Technology Excellence Center (TEC) (04)
8618 Westwood Center Drive, Suite 310, Vienna VA 22182
(o) 703-827-0638, (c) 313-204-1740 www.vangent.com (05)
Professional viewpoints do not necessarily imply organizational
endorsement. (06)
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Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:14 PM
To: Chris Harding
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Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] The Open Group SOA Ontology (07)
On Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:27 PM, Chris Harding wrote:
> We would very much appreciate your input, not only on the relation of
this
> work to OWL-S and WSMO, but on all aspects that are of interest to
you. We
> will address comments received at this stage before creating the draft
for
> final Open Group review. I therefore invite you to review the draft,
and
> to send me comments on it. (08)
Chris, (09)
You are doing a big and useful service for the public, researching the
nature of service. What is service is still a blind spot for economics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_%28economics%29, not mentioning its (010)
ontological issue. (011)
Re. your report. There is still a room for improvement, imho. Just two
comments. (012)
The first one, how one should take this basic definition: ''a service is
a
logical representation of a repeatable business activity that has a
specified outcome.'' Why its genus ''a logical representation''? If you
speak of the service as a model, it is one thing. If the service in
general,
it is a wholly different situation. Again, why its deferentia is chosen
as
''a repeatable business activity that has a specified outcome''. The
same
can be applied to fishing, mining, agriculture (the primary industry) or (013)
manufacturing (the secondary industry) as well. A service is a complex
business process, involving a service provider (agency) with its skill,
experience, ingenuity, or expertise and service customer delivered
intangible goods: new knowledge, learning, information, advice,
experience,
plan of actions, defence, safety, care, and other life necessities
(food,
shelter, utilities). So an adequate service definition is supposed to
cover
all its connotations: from child care services to marriage services to
religious and burial services. (014)
The second comment re. ontological statements, they could be worded more (015)
carefully, imho. For instance, it is asserted, '' there can be changes
and
events that are not effects of anything''. In fact, there are not such
changes and events, any of them always is either a cause or effect. This
is
in the nature of changes. (016)
As a suggestion, as a distinguishing characteristic may serve ' to
satisfy
the requirements of the public, to perform the duties of the office, to
promote the interest of the customer, to be of use, utility, advantage,
benefit, good, purpose, profit or assistance, in some requested changes,
in
the customer's knowing, physical possessions, tangible assets, etc.'. (017)
Hope my commenting service will be of service to your job, so necessary
for
all of us. (018)
Azamat Abdoullaev
EIS Encyclopedic Intelligent Systems Ltd
http://www.eis.com.cy
http://www.igi-global.com/books/details.asp?id=7641;
http://www.amazon.com/Reality-Universal-Ontology-Knowledge-Systems/dp/15
9904966X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215177153&sr=8-1 (019)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Harding" <c.harding@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <semantic-web@xxxxxx>; <www-ws@xxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:27 PM
Subject: The Open Group SOA Ontology (020)
>
> Hi -
>
> For some time now, The Open Group has been developing a formal
ontology
> for SOA. We made an early version available for comment by W3C members (021)
> over a year ago. We have now reached the stage where we believe that
it is
> almost complete, and are exposing it to outside bodies for review and
> comment prior to its final review within The Open Group.
>
> The ontology is a formal OWL ontology, but the draft also includes
> extensive heuristic explanations of its concepts. We believe that it
> complements work on OWL-S and WSMO, in that it includes a compatible
> concept of "Service" and relates this to concepts in other areas,
> including Enterprise Architecture and Business Process Modeling.
>
> The draft is publicly available at
> http://www.opengroup.org/projects/soa-ontology/doc.tpl?gdid=16940 We
> would very much appreciate your input, not only on the relation of
this
> work to OWL-S and WSMO, but on all aspects that are of interest to
you. We
> will address comments received at this stage before creating the draft
for
> final Open Group review. I therefore invite you to review the draft,
and
> to send me comments on it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
> ++++
>
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