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Dear Peter,
I do not understand the bottom line of your message? Can I criticaly discuss my two ontologies, Knowledge 2008 and knowledge Map of Information Science in the Ontolog-forum?
If I can not discuss my projects in the forum, please make it clear and I will respect your policy.
Thanks
Chaim Zins
On 2/25/08, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Chaim,
Thank you for your response.
1. "Copyright" is not the issue (even the so called "copyleft" work
are copyrighted to the author of the work)
... rather, the real issue is: whether or not the work is "Free" and "Open."
The key is how the work is being licensed for use by others. Our IPR
Policy (http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32 )
does cite relevant references. You may want to test your work
accordingly, and advise if your work meets the said "open" criterion.
2. It is one thing when John Sowa, without being solicted, bring up a
new topic (and cites Professor Vitanyi's paper "Automatic Meaning
Discovery Using Google") and when ontolog-member-X brings up his/her
own work for critical discourse by the community.
2.1. for one ... X is potentially "self-promoting" and hence, breaches
our membership contribution policy of:
//
unless specifically requested/solicited by other community member(s),
please make sure any commercial- or self-promotion material or
reference are strictly limited to one's namesake page or a short
signature block, and nowhere else as far as our open collaborative
work environment is concerned.
//
(ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidLMK )
2.2 two ... if that work being discussed turns out to be an non-
"free" or "open" product, X is potentially making a
"commercial-promotion" of that product (or technology, etc.). In
commercial terms, that is usually called "advertising."
... There are plenty of venues for advertising, and we have strive to
make sure that the Ontolog collaborative work environment (which also
dubs as our collective knowledge repository) is free from
"advertisement."
3. More important, though, is the *intent* of all these policies --
we are trying to have a place where the community could freely share
knowledge, and collaborate to advance our charter (ref.
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidB ), so that
the end result from that collaboration can be further shared and
enhanced, and thus bootstrapping, and setting into motion a virtuous
circle for the chartered work, through the generosity of our
membership.
If and when the community's bandwidth mistakenly goes into advancing a
"proprietary" product/technology, that intent is no longer being
upheld, and the community gets exploited towards providing pro bono
-consultation, -research or -development for the said "proprietary"
product/technology, which, obviously, is NOT what Ontolog is intended
for.
4. As previously discussed, we do waive our IPR Policies, on
occasions, so as (for example) to allow for an across-the-spectrum
(both open and proprietary) survey of the technology landscape. For
anyone with proprietary products/technologies that they want to review
with the community, those would be the appropriate circumstances to
bring them up up for discussion.
Thanks & regards. =ppy
Peter Yim
Co-convener, Ontolog
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On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:33 AM, chaim Zins <chaim.zins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Peter,
>
> My contributions to the Ontolog-Forum and its related sites are in
> accordance with the IRP policy.
>
> There is a clear distinction between the content of my contribution, and the
> discussed projects. The content of my contributions is open and free to use.
> The discussed projects are copyright protected.
>
> Note that throughout the Ontolog.cim3 website there are many discussions on
> copyright protected and licenced projects. See, for example, "Interesting
> way of using Google".
>
> Consequantely, discussing licenced projects are in accordance with the IRP
> policy.
>
> Knowledge 2008
>
> 1. Scholarly work. Knowledge 2008 is a scholarly project. Hereby, I invite
> anyone to criticaly discuss it, and question my reasoning and resrearch
> methodologies.
>
> 2. Academic & Educational citations. One can cite sections of the map (as
> is) in academic & educational non-profit publications and websites for
> academic & educational purposes, free of charge, as long as it is done in
> accordance with ethical codes acceptable by the academic community (e.g.,
> give me the full academic credit).
>
> 3. Open access. The website is open free of charge to everyone.
>
> 4. Utilizing the scheme in R&D projects. I will authorize developers to
> implement the map (scheme) in R&D projects, digital libraries, search tools,
> and the like, pending written licencing.
>
> I hope that I clarify my possition.
>
>
> All the Best,
>
> Chaim Zins
>
>
> On 2/23/08, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Chaim,
> >
> >
> > In the interest of ensuring proper observation of our IPR policy (ref.
> > http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32 ), could
> > you tell us how your sight content and the technology that deliver
> > them are licensed?
> >
> > ... In particular, are these work "open" and consistent with such IPR
> policy?
> >
> >
> > Thanks & regards. =ppy
> >
> > Peter P. Yim
> >
> > Co-convener,
> > Ontolog Forum
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 9:20 AM, chaim Zins <chaim.zins@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Friends & Colleagues,
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008 is an ongoing R&D project aimed at mapping human
> knowledge
> > > and facilitating efficient information searching. The project is
> composed of
> > > 6 parts:
> > > Map of Human Knowledge, Portal to Human Knowledge, Smart Search,
> > > Encyclopedia, Overview, and Academic Forum.
> > >
> > > The project is based on a scientific study. Please feel free to reflect
> on
> > > the theoretical perspectives (see bellow) and the practical implications
> of
> > > the project.
> > >
> > > If you wish to support the project, please do so by reviewing the
> sections
> > > related to your fields of expertise. Needless to say that I need your
> > > support.
> > >
> > >
> > > For more information please see a detailed overview of the project:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008: Map of Human Knowledge
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/Map/Map.html
> > >
> > > Overview. A systematic map of human knowledge. The knowledge map maps
> 500
> > > major fields. Human knowledge is composed of 10 pillars. Each pillar is
> > > divided into relevant categories and presents the relevant field. The
> map is
> > > an ontology of human knowledge, rather than a classification scheme.
> > >
> > > Unique characteristics. To better evaluate the map let us look at its
> unique
> > > characteristics:
> > >
> > > 1. The 10 pillar structure, which is based on the Knowledge -
> Supernatural -
> > > Universe - Humans model is unique.
> > >
> > > 2. The distinction between categories of the map (e.g., Theory) and
> fields
> > > of knowledge (e.g., Philosophy of Knowledge) is unique.
> > > Imagine that the Map mirrors a library. The pillars are bookcases. The
> > > categories are shelves, and the fields of knowledge are books. The
> Library
> > > of Human Knowledge has 10 bookcases, 100 shelves, and a collection of
> 500
> > > books.
> > >
> > > 3. The Theory - Embodiment structure is unique. The map has a Theory -
> > > Embodiment structure. It is manifested within the map level, the pillar
> > > level, and the field level.
> > >
> > > [in the map level: Pillar 1 is 'the theory' part of human knowledge
> (HK). It
> > > is composed of the meta-knowledge of HK. Pillars 2-10 are 'the
> embodiment'
> > > of HK. They are composed of our knowledge on the explored phenomena (the
> > > supernatural, the universe, the living world, and humans. In the pillar
> > > level: Each pillar has 'a theory' category. In the field level: Each
> field
> > > has 'a theory' sub-field (e.g., Philosophy of Medicine, Literary Theory,
> > > Philosophy of Art)
> > >
> > > 4. The categories of the map were formulated in this research.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008: Portal to Human Knowledge
> > >
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/Portal/Portal.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Overview. A systematic portal to top quality resources. Currently, the
> > > portal includes hundreds links to top resources in all fields of
> knowledge.
> > >
> > > Rationale. Following Bradford's law (1934) it is assumed that for every
> > > field there are core resources that include the core knowledge of the
> field.
> > > The portal will include links to the core resources in all the major
> > > fields.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008: Smart Search
> > >
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/search/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Overview. A systematic user interface of Internet search engines. It is
> > > designed to facilitate an efficient information searching. Currently, it
> is
> > > implemented for Google search engine.
> > >
> > > Rationale. Search words are essential for formulating effective search
> > > queries. Unfortunately, most searchers are not familiar with the
> relevant
> > > search terms. It is assumed that in every field there are main keywords
> that
> > > relate to the core knowledge of the field. The idea is to develop a
> > > systematic user interface that presents the main keywords in the major
> > > fields of knowledge.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008: Encyclopedic Portal to Wikipedia
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/encyclopedia/index.html
> > >
> > > Overview. A systematic portal to the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. The portal
> > > implements the knowledge map for facilitating systematic access to
> > > Wikipedia's encyclopedic articles.
> > >
> > > Rationale. Wikipedia is a general encyclopedia. It is free and popular.
> > > Undoubtedly, Wikipedia is a significant international, intercultural,
> and
> > > interdisciplinary project despite the poor quality of many articles.
> Note
> > > that the map can be implemented in other encyclopedias.
> > >
> > > Overview
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/overview/1.html
> > > A concise overview of the knowledge map.
> > >
> > >
> > > Forum
> > > http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/Forum/Forum.html
> > > An academic and professional forum (via email) on the theoretical and
> > > practical aspects of the project.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to your response. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Chaim Zins
> > >
> > >
> > > Knowledge 2008: Map - Portal - Encyclopedia - Smart Search - Overview -
> > > Forum
> > > Knowledge Map of Information Science
> > >
> > > --
> > > Chaim Zins, PhD.
> > > Knowledge Mapping Research
> > > 26 Hahaganah St, Jerusalem 97852, Israel;
> > > Tel/Fax: 972-2-5816705
> > > Email: chaim.zins@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Homepage: www.success.co.il
> > > Knowledge 2006: Map of Human Knowledge
> > > (http://www.success.co.il/knowledge/index.html)
> > >
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> 26 Hahaganah St, Jerusalem 97852, Israel;
> Tel/Fax: 972-2-5816705
> Email: chaim.zins@xxxxxxxxx
> Homepage: www.success.co.il
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