John F. Sowa wrote:
> Wacek,
>
> That is clearly an objective statement about somebody's
> subjective opinion:
>
> > It sounds as if my saying 'the earth is flat' were
> > an objective statement, while 'i think that the earth
> > is flat' were a subjective statement. Is my saying
> > 'she says the earth is flat' an objective or a
> > subjective statement?
>
> In fact, journalists take advantage of that loophole:
>
> 1. Opinions in a newspaper are supposed to be confined
> to the editorial pages.
>
> 2. The news pages are supposed to be objective.
>
> 3. But the news pages can contain quotations by
> politicians who state their opinions.
>
> 4. Therefore, journalists can claim objectivity while
> biasing their reporting by their choice of quotations.
> (01)
yes, but here there are two separate levels: (02)
- what could be called 'declarative' objectivity (making only objective
claims) (03)
- what could be called 'operational' subjectivity (choosing among those
objective claims in a way so as to reflect one's subjective opinion). (04)
we discussed the former, and while you are correct, conflation of these
two ways of being objective/subjective further fuzzifies the distinction
between objective and subjective claims. (05)
vQ (06)
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