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Re: [ontolog-forum] {Disarmed} Re: OWL and lack of identifiers

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From: Waclaw Kusnierczyk <Waclaw.Marcin.Kusnierczyk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 16:03:12 +0200
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John F. Sowa wrote:
> Patrick and everybody else who has questions about logic,
> 
> I strongly endorse the following point by Pat Hayes:
> 
>  > To give [Topic Maps or any other notation] such a semantics
>  > is not to 'logify' it, or rule out its use by humans (in fact,
>  > despite the dark reputation of logic, we found that giving
>  > RDF a precise formal semantics actually helped many real live
>  > people, including developers, not least by providing quick
>  > ways of resolving otherwise interminable debates.)
> 
> Yes, indeed.  And C. S. Peirce, the inventor of the usual
> algebraic notation for logic, wrote the following
> 
>     http://www.peirce.org/writings/p119.html
>     How to Make Our Ideas Clear
> 
> He published this paper in the _Popular Science Monthly_
> in 1878, and the title emphasizes his main point.  Following
> is a quotation from it:
> 
>     The very first lesson that we have a right to demand that
>     logic shall teach us is, how to make our ideas clear; and a
>     most important one it is, depreciated only by minds who stand
>     in need of it. To know what we think, to be masters of our
>     own meaning, will make a solid foundation for great and
>     weighty thought. It is most easily learned by those whose
>     ideas are meagre and restricted; and far happier they than
>     such as wallow helplessly in a rich mud of conceptions.
> 
> I like the phrase "rich mud of conceptions" -- that is an
> excellent description of all the discussions in this forum
> that are "wallowing helplessly" in some vague notion that
> we need a notation that is not logical.    (01)

sounds as if what we need is a tutorial on how to prevent being invited 
to parties.    (02)

vQ    (03)

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