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>³you can tag your content "gooble gobble f***"
>for all I care and your own purposes²
>
>There¹s the rub: ³for your own purposes² is
>tagging only for your own purpose (in which case
>you are right) or to attempt to place the item
>being tagged in a concept space, offered for
>sharing with others? Both are valid and what is
>important is to be able to make a distinction
>between the personal terminology space and the
>potentially shared (01)
I think the emerging lesson from the 'Web 2.0'
ideas/experiences is that taggers, like all
people, are more similar than they would like to
believe, and that commonalities of usage will in
fact emerge even if we all act very
individualistically; basically because
statistically, we are all fairly normal. (02)
Pat (03)
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>Sent: 08 March 2007 23:52
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>Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] (PLEASE!!...) tasteful tags...
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>My intention wasn't to be disruptive to society.
>However, I don't know how or why the issue of
>tastefulness came up particularly as I wasn't
>even talking about it. I'm the last person
>who'd care about "tasteful." The point I was
>making is you can tag your content "gooble
>gobble f***" for all I care and your own
>purposes, if that makes it easier for you to
>find; but I'm not sure where the value is when
>attempting to share with others.
>
>I didn't realize the world was so delicately balanced lol!
>
>Keith
>
>
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] (PLEASE!!...) tasteful tags...
>From: Duane Nickull <dnickull@xxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thu, March 08, 2007 4:29 pm
>To: "[ontolog-forum]" <ontolog-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>Tasteful Tags brings us full circle back to my point about the contextual
>aspects of ontology. The flawed wine example that Protégé uses is again an
>illustration of how many "tags" or "labels" are purely opinions and an
>assertion specific to that context. Wine that tastes "best" to one person
>cannot be considered the "best wine" without some form of qualification of
>where that assertion comes from.
>
>Question: Where does this stop? If a rock solid? To me it is but to a
>neutrino it is not. To water it might not be. To my hand, yes.
>
>Right and wrong are also values people place on things from their own
>context. This unfortunately results in much disruption in our world today.
>
>Duane
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On 3/8/07 2:24 PM, "Lisa" <lisadawncolvin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> --- Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Why should their value be different from that of
>>> any other tags? Do you presume that there is a
>>> notion of a 'tasteful tag', and that tags which
>>> exhibit tastelessness should be treated as
>>> second-class?
>>
>> This brings up an interesting point regarding
>>reasoning about information from
>> tags. Over 10 years
>> ago, when I was part of a team mapping a
>>lexicon to Wordnet, there was concern
>> that some of the
>> synsets contained derogatory terms mixed in with value-neutral terms within
>> the same synset. We
>> ended up introducing various relationships which addressed these linguistic
>> values. Perhaps more
>> simply, we can create a collection of tags that are considered to be
>> "judgment" tags - or create
>> some other way of representing properties (such as "taste" "user community",
>> etc.) on tags - which
>> raise the notion of tags from indexing and nomenclature to a more
>> semantically-expressive system.
> >
>> Lisa
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