Rex: (01)
Thanks. Alternatively, it may be too formal for Concept maps and perhaps
it should be declared that none or only some of those questions can even
be inferred. (02)
Much to do, not a lot of time <sigh> (03)
Duane (04)
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Understood Duane, (07)
I was just expressing my personal opinion and citing my own peculiar
use of concept maps because I find them very handy for getting ideas
out of my head and into a form where it is somewhat easier to work
with them. I actually didn't start using them until prompted by your
work. So I will be quite content to use them on my own regardless of
whether they become standardized notations. I will just have to be
careful not to let my scratchpad work get saved in a formal document.
I also plan to start using them in a networked whiteboard application
I'm playing with. BTW, I wasn't familiar with YAMMV, and had to look
it up. YUP. (08)
The relationships actually make my point, since I can write in
whatever I want, or whatever I think I'm modeling until it finally
becomes more clear. However, you are quite correct that
interpretation becomes darn near impossible without some rules. (09)
Regards,
Rex (010)
At 9:39 AM -0800 12/13/05, Duane Nickull wrote:
>Rex said: "I would actually prefer if concept maps stayed informal or
>relatively informal for usefulness in my brainstorming process before
>moving on to my personal process for noodling out constraints."
>
>This has been identified as a problem since it leads to different
people
>interpreting things differently.
><Rant>
>For example
>
>"A uses B"
>
>How would *you* answer the following:
>
>1. Can A exist without B?
>2. Is B aware of A?
>3. Is A aware of B?
>4. Is the reciprocal relationship "B is used by A" true?
>5. Does B need at least one A to exists before it can exist?
>6. Is B a complete concept without A?
>7. Does A always use B?
>8. add transitive, reflexive and all variants....
>....
>
>I have avoided use of cardinality but others think that cardinality
>exists in concept maps. Does this relationship mean exactly one A and
>one B must be present for the concept to be complete or does it
>represent multiples. I have seen concept maps with plurality such as:
>
>"machines are used by workers"
>
>Why is workers plural? Does it imply that there must be more than one
>worker?
>
>What about instance, parent relationships?
></Rant>
>
>While you may answer these very clearly, the exact interpretation is
not
>ubiquitous and YAMMV.
>
>Duane
>
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