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[ontolog-forum] Re: Proceedings: Ontolog Forum Panel Discussion Aug. 2

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From: Rex Brooks <rexb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:48:03 -0700
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Thanks for the kind words, Peter,    (01)

I want to express my appreciation to the panelists and the audience 
for an excellent effort that sets a high water mark for the follow 
through, follow up and follow on. I especially want to thank 
Professor Bob Smith for his active participation through this entire 
effort and for keeping the focus on ontological analysis and tools.    (02)

To that end I want to repeat the questions that we said we would 
address on the health-ont list, but that we did not have time for 
during the panel discussion, along with the questions from our 
initial list which we also did not have time to address.    (03)

However, before I do that, I want to suggest that we all give some 
thought to coming up with ideas on how we can carry the message of 
the potential benefits of large scale ontology projects to the Health 
IT realm.    (04)

Also, I would like to suggest that we give some thought to a follow 
up panel discussion or two in order to include the informatics 
landscape for financial management standards, (perhaps including 
standards such as OASIS UBL and ebXML?), for the Health IT sector. 
For that case, I would suggest inviting someone from the Medical 
Banking Project so that we can begin to share ideas with them.    (05)

Please understand that these are just suggestions.    (06)

As most of us know, but often forget in the press of oten hectic 
schedules, keeping threads together for reference purposes in email 
lists requires staying with a specific subject line or message date, 
so please don't reply to this message with answers to the following 
questions. This is just a reminder to stimulate thought about follow 
ups.    (07)

Remaining Questions:    (08)

5.Which turf battles should be considered or avoided?
6.Can and should we seek a set of primary policy concerns to develop 
a coordinated [choreographed] global system for sharing interoperable 
"Frameworks" in a specified timeframe that produces results with 
minimal disruptive conflict among interdependent communities. (e.g. 
the Medical Banking Project, other standards bodies, etc.) 
7.What constitutes appropriate maturity level for standards to be 
considered qualified for inclusion in these interoperable 
8.Can modeling and appropriate simplification of complicated 
relationships improve this short list of concerns?
9.Should Enterprise Business Models be considered at this point, 
given that Enterprise Architecture and Service-Oriented Architecture 
are gaining greater traction and it is of the utmost importance to 
simplify physical workflows, financial flows and associated knowledge 
flows within an enterprise and between levels?    (09)

New Questions:    (010)

Question: What is being done to add sensor information about the 
patient and their environment to the ontologies? - MichelleRaymond
Question: Does the Informatics of Medicine Ontology work stretch from 
wellness care, to home care, to out-patient, to in hospital, to 
support facilities, etc...? If not where is the focus? How can we 
pull this together? - MichelleRaymond
Question: Will business cases be targeted at vender's of systems as 
well as care systems? How? - MichelleRaymond
Question: How can private sector business best participate in these 
efforts (ontology and business cases)? - MichelleRaymond    (011)

Thanks Again,
Rex Brooks    (012)

At 8:37 PM -0700 8/25/05, Peter P. Yim wrote:
>Good turnout ... great presentations ... and wonderful discussions 
>exploring the healthcare informatics landscape!
>Kudos to Rex Brooks for proposing, organizing and moderating this 
>session; and to Bob Smith for helping frame the discussion. 
>Appreciations to panelists Marc Wine, Bob Smith, Mark Musen, Ram 
>Sriram, David Whitten and Brand Niemann for sharing their insights 
>with the community (and the world at large). Thanks should also go 
>to all who had taken the time to participate, and to contribute to 
>the discussion.
>Proceedings of the session are captured at the wiki session page, 
>at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_25
>In particular, full audio recording of the session is now available 
>too - see: 
>There were still questions that those present promised to continue 
>to pursue on the [health-ont] mailing list. I shall look forward to 
>a continuation of the dialog in our virtual discussion space.
>Best regards.  =ppy
>Peter P. Yim wrote Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:58:57 -0700:
>>Thanks, Rex. I'm really looking forward to hearing the perspectives 
>>of the esteemed panelists, and to the ensuing discussion.
>>Please note that the link to the wiki session page should be:
>>(I've updated that on Rex's original message too, he was 
>>inadvertently pointing people to the preparation page.)
>>By the way, as usual, this will be a virtual session over an 
>>augmented conference call. The session is expected to start with a 
>>5-minute summary perspective from each of our panelists, which will 
>>then be followed by an extended discussion between the participants 
>>and the panel.
>>The session is open to all. Feel free to circulate this to people 
>>you know who may be interested and/or are willing to contribute to 
>>the discussion.
>>The entire session will be recorded and made available as open 
>>content under the prevailing Ontolog IPR policy (see: 
>>A summary of this discussion will hopefully be presented, on behalf 
>>of the Ontolog Community, at the upcoming FCW First Federal Health 
>>IT Conference in Washington DC (Nov. 17~18, 2005) if our submission 
>>is accepted.
>>See you at the session.  =ppy
>>Rex Brooks wrote Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:58:42 -0700:
>>>Dear Colleagues:
>>>We are pleased to announce an Ontolog Forum Virtual Panel 
>>>Discussion on August 25, 2005 on the topic:
>>>Healthcare Informatics Landscapes, Roadmaps, and Blueprints:
>>>Towards a Business Case Strategy for Large Scale Ontology Projects
>>>You can find an abstract and information on how to attend and RSVP at
>>>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_08_25 [upated]
>>>This is an important and timely topic that relates ontological 
>>>concerns to our everyday lives in a way that most everyone can 
>>>understand and with which most everyone interacts in some fashion 
>>>many times during their lives. It is even more important in these 
>>>times. Our discussion promises to be pointed and enlightening.
>>>We hope you can attend.
>>>Rex Brooks
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