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Re: [ontolog-forum] [Fwd: [dao-forum] Ontology Editor and Browser]

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From: Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 16:39:54 -0800
Message-id: <402190DA.7090007@xxxxxxxx>
Thanks for the update, Pat.    (01)

 > [Pat]  I have not yet started to build an Export-to-KIF
 > method in the Protege SKIF tab. ...
 > ...  So until there is a visible demand for it
 > (e.g. several ontolog people actually building an ontology and
 > wanting to use Protege) I will concentrate on getting the
 > details of the importing polished, ...    (02)

By cross posting to the [dao-forum] here, let's see what the 
interest/demand level is from our friends at [dao].    (03)

-ppy
--    (04)

Bob Smith wrote Wed, 4 Feb 2004 16:28:09 -0800:
> Hi Pat:
> 
> Thanks for the files.
> 
> Do you recommend Protégé 1.8 ? I tried 2.0Beta and had significant Blue
> Screen experiences...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bob     (05)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ontolog-forum-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Patrick Cassidy
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 2:09 PM
> To: [ontolog-forum]
> Subject: Re: [ontolog-forum] [Fwd: [dao-forum] Ontology Editor and Browser]    (06)

 > Peter --    (07)

 >    I have not yet started to build an Export-to-KIF
 > method in the Protege SKIF tab.  In the time I have
 > to work on this I am still dealing with some small
 > details regarding the best way to represent certain
 > logical elements from KIF in Protege.    (08)

 >    I do want to crate an export facility, but as I mentioned,
 > time is short and there would be a lot of detail to
 > handle.  So until there is a visible demand for it
 > (e.g. several ontolog people actually building an ontology and
 > wanting to use Protege) I will concentrate on getting the
 > details of the importing polished, and adding content to the
 > invoices module.    (09)

 >   Meanwhile, the latest version of the import routine now
 > takes instance-level relations that are specified in SKIF,
 > (such as those in the sample invoice instance that Adam Pease
 > has started), and represents those as the values for
 > template slots of the domain 1 instance.    (010)

 >     The files available are:
 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/smink004.zip    --  the WinZipped Protege
 >                               files for the combined SUMO, Mid-Level,
 >                               and Invoices ontology:  SMINK004    (011)

 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/skif_tab.jar    --  the jar file for the
 >                                SkifTab plugin which will import a SKIF
 >                                file into Protege (if it follows the
 >                                SUMO-SKIF conventions)    (012)

 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/samin004.zip     --  a zipped text file
 >                                 "samin004.txt", which is the
 >                                SKIF-format file for the combined
 >                                SUMO, Mid-Level,  and Invoices
 >                                ontologies (the SKIF-text version of
 >                                Protege ontology SMINK004)    (013)

 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/SKIFcore.pins  |  The Protege text files
 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/SKIFcore.pont  |  of the base Protege
 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/SKIFcore.pprj  |  ontology required to
 >                                            |  import a SKIF file
 >                                            |  using the SKIF tab    (014)

 >     ftp://micra.com/ontolog/SKIFProt.doc   |  A WinWord file
 >                                  describing the problems encountered
 >                                  in converting SKIF to a Protege DB.    (015)

 >     I will be happy to answer questions from anyone about the SMINK004
 >  ontology, or about the method of converting it from the SKIF file.
 >
 >     Pat
---    (016)

 > Peter Yim wrote Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:57:35 -0800:
 >
 >> Ken,
 >>
 >> I should forward this to [ontolog] ... you probably want to hear what
 >> Pat Cassidy has on his drawing board.
 >>
 >> -ppy
 >> --    (017)

 >> -------- Original Message --------
 >> Subject: [dao-forum] Ontology Editor and Browser
 >> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:30:09 +0800
 >> From: Kenneth Fields <ken@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 >> Reply-To: DigitalArtOntology <dao-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
 >> To: DigitalArtOntology <dao-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
 >>
 >> Ok, What is the editor of choice for this project?
 >>
 >> A. KIF files scribbled on napkins :( ... or
 >> B. Protege
 >>
 >> And what will be the browser of choice? The cim3 site has a KIF 
browser
 >> and Protege does not output KIF, right? The ontology needs to be
 >> publicly accessible. There are Omnigators, Cyc Browsers, 
Ontoramas, and
 >> Ontolinguas. The Conference Wiki was an eye opener (just click on RDF
 >> tag) - but we'll have to wait for our OWLiki.
 >>
 >> Ken
 >>    (018)

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