OASIS actually does have a formal relationship with ISO. I delayed answering
for long enough to make sure I got it right. Here is the short version: (01)
A Technical Committee (TC) does standards work, and then seeks to pass standard
onto ISO, OASIS Board gives approval or not, i.e., there is an internal process
to insure the quality of work submitted. (02)
Oasis has Publicly Available Specification (PAS) status with ISO, which means
that a standard developed in OASIS can be submitted to JTC1 (ISO + IEC), which
is their IT committee, for approval. (03)
The standard is sent to JTC1, a ballot is held 5 to 7 months after the request.
The standard is then approved as is, or it comes back with comments, which
means there is another round. Total: a year or so. (04)
OASIS also has Category A liaison status with ISO, which means we can submit a
standard to ISO directly, if the standard does not fit the JTC1 mold. (05)
"A man should never be ashamed to own that he has been in the wrong, which is
but saying ... that he is wiser today than yesterday." -- Jonathan Swift (06)
Toby Considine
Chair, OASIS oBIX TC
Facilities Technology Office
University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC (07)
Email: Toby.Considine@ unc.edu
Phone: (919)962-9073
http://www.oasis-open.org
blog: www.NewDaedalus.com (08)
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To: Deborah MacPherson; Michelle Raymond; Peter Yim
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Subject: Re: [bsp-forum] Great Workshop, some questions and comments (09)
Hi Deborah, (010)
I am copying David Coggeshall, of Golden Gate Safety Network, who
gave the presentation on the Common Operating Picture (COP). I am
also copying the BSP list so that that group is also aware of this. (011)
I think Michelle is probably better suited to address many of your
questions related to BIM and NBIMS. However, I can say that OASIS
does not, as far as I know, have a specific formal, legal, liaison
relationship with ISO, but it has collaborated with ITU and ISO in
the past. ITU adopted an ASN.1 representation of the Common Alerting
Protocol (CAP)1.1 that I worked on more than a year ago, and I
believe it was in 2004 that ISO adopted 5 ebXML specifications
developed by OASIS with UNCEFACT:
* ISO 15000-1: ebXML Collaborative Partner Profile Agreement
* ISO 15000-2: ebXML Messaging Service Specification
* ISO 15000-3: ebXML Registry Information Model
* ISO 15000-4: ebXML Registry Services Specification
* ISO 15000-5: ebXML Core Components Technical Specification, Version 2.01. (012)
Our SOA Registry Repository usesthe Registry Information Model and
Registry Services Specifications and some of the others though not
explicitly since they are fundamental to so many other applications
and specifications that we take them for granted. (013)
I am probably going to suggest several people and groups to help
organize or take the lead in helping Susan with developing an
Emergency Healthcare Workshop and perhaps an Emergency Standards
Workshop. The ValueListURN-Value pair concept I mentioned a couple of
times yesterday is part of the EDXL Family and an
educational-socialization effort is needed to stimulate local
jurisidictions and EOCs to develop, publish, advertise and maintain
their own facilities-related Resource Lists to use this methodology
and technique, which is rather well suited for BIM, NBIMS and
Sensor-OGC interests. (014)
I learned enough with this effort, that even with four months advance
work (despite the interruption of a hernia and hernia repair
surgery), putting this kind of effort together needs a bit more of a
team. Of course the coincidence of having the NIST workshop next week
along with the OPEN SIG presentation is not likely to be duplicated.
However, the annual NIST Interoperability Week in March-April is
another such potential coincidence-target, as are the regular
Semantic Interoperability and SOA for E-Government Conferences. (015)
The time to start work on these efforts is soon, before the
Thanksgiving-Xmas period. Coordinating this effort with the Open
Ontology Repository work is something both Michelle and I have an
interest in continuing. (016)
Cheers,
Rex (017)
At 2:30 PM -0400 10/8/08, Deborah MacPherson wrote:
>Dear Rex, Michelle, and Peter,
>
>
>I am honored to have participated in yesterday's workshop. I learned
>a lot, some activities are further along than I thought and some
>interface with the ways buildings are designed and actually work
>seem to be completely missing. For example I'm surprised the only
>comment on buildings by DHS was that "they have inside spaces". On
>the up side, the strong tie that already exists between NBIMS and
>OGC is sure to be a benefit in the long run.
>
>
>I had a talk with Greg Ceton Technical Program Manager at CSI this
>morning. Basically, ISO standards (and European Standards for that
>matter) and the NBIMS Standard are not alike, mainly because their
>organizations have more staff, so there are more forms and
>procedures, they look for trends etc. NBIMS is much simpler than
>this. I'm trying to understand relationships between standards
>organizations, can someone please explain the relationship between
>ISO and OASIS if any direct relationship exists?
>
>
>Its hard to say what I liked the best in the slide shows.
>
>
>-Certainly the concept of Common Operating Picture is very
>appealing. I'd like to see the same for museums exchanging artworks
>in different exhibits over time.
>
>
>- The Scalable Architecture presentation was great especially
>SuperCuper Prototype where the XML is far in the background without
>the user having to fill out information that is probably already
>known simply by working with this type of data or question. Also
>interested in the comment from SourceForge that "all messages
>contain some elements of these major categories."
>
>
>- Its very exciting to see demonstrations in Google Earth. I truly
>believe OCCS Table 11 could be used to color GIS symbology a
>standard way by building type to help clarify the common operating
>picture even more. I proposed 10 standardized colors for BSP, maybe
>we can talk about these again. I sent a message with this same
>suggestion about Table 11 and colors to Charles McLean earlier today
>(in response to what seemed to be a sincere request for suggestions)
>along with another suggestion RE: the pros and cons of Fire Control
>Rooms.
>
>
>- I also particularly like the People, Places, Things, Events and
>think these could be tied to building data fairly easily through
>special relationships between OmniClass tables.
>
>
>- Once the information is exposed real time on Google Earth, is
>there a reason it would not be available to people in that area
>whether on their computers or on their cell phones so they know
>where to go? Is it currently possible to limit what is shown to a
>geographic area, in other words only people within a certain
>distance could receive the common picture? That way some terrorist
>or bank robber is not sitting miles away watching their disruption
>from a safe distance?
>
>
>-I liked the symbols Michelle was proposing and the rapid assessment
>and reuse of a building (EX: a warehouse is converted into a
>temporary hospital then all the ambulances get re-routed there.) OPS
>is perfect for this.
>
>
>-Also, the ability to terminate a request once it is met makes a lot
>of sense (EX: stop sending cots to this location, send them to this
>other place instead).
>
>
>I'll look at the NIMS Resource Typing and Daisy.org to see if there
>is anything useful for architects or NBIMS there. If you have
>recommendations on Swarms or Smart Swarm Agents I'm curious to know
>more about that some day.
>
>
>I started a page for collaborative editing or wishlists if a
>discussion could get going
>
><http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NBIMSinContext>http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NBIMSinContext.
>
>
>Finally, I've been looking at the Umbel Ontology and based upon
>Peters comment to "ground any domain ontology into a
>foundation/upper" I'll see if I can get my classifications and
>standards to fit in that. That would be a great leap forward because
>of the convenient shape Umbel has. I'll also go back to hear their
>talk from the other week. If you have any advise on how to start
>that process please let me know.
>
>
>Thanks again,
>
>
>Deborah
>
>
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>Projects Director, Accuracy&Aesthetics
>Specifier, WDG Architecture PLLC
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