Hi Deborah,
Good thoughts!!
Easy to answer question. Your other
thoughts can be entered directly into the Wiki.
===================================:
The document does not include 3 important areas that deserve
attention on the BSP Home Page.
DM>>For example?
RS>> Governance and Operational Planning (1K27)
·
Is this within the scope of a
Charter? Where does it belong? (1K3J)
Time
lines and Road Maps (1K28)
·
Is this within the scope of a
Charter? Where does it belong? (1K3K)
·
(1K29)
·
Major Project Milestones (1K2A)
Resources
and Skills (1K2B)
·
Resources (1K3M)
·
Related organizations and their
Domain Maps (1K3N)
Annotated Bibliography of
related documents (1K3O)
DM> I'll expand on the wiki but
would sincerely appreciate narrowing down the problem above to ontology only so
I can get this Excel file cleaner and more populated. ….
RS>> More editing to come!
Thanks
Bob
From:
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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:09
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Subject: Re: [bsp-forum] BSP
Charter now eagerly awaiting your keen eyes
Hi Bob ~ quick thoughts ~
My diagram will be more about classifications, and mapping
between UniFormat>OCCS>MF2004 classes to suit various tasks. This may not
count as semantics but will make a rough sketch in OmniGraffle. In general, a
merging or overview is all that I mean to show.
2) Primary Problem
to Resolve (New topic, but typically a Problem Statement helps to focus
attention. Your thoughts??)
SAMPLE PROBLEM: Looking at 10 theoretical building types to solve a
series of theoretical issues ***which should also be narrowed down into set of
questions*** to make precise retrievals and perform further analysis on a task
by task, building by building, and region by region, jurisdiction
by jurisdiction basis. Not only the contract documents and whether or
not the final project delivery did comply with the project requirements, longer
term, with more documentation including Cx and related sustainable design
submittals, subsequent tracking over time, then ultimately, how or what is
accessed by the local jurisdictions like police and fire departments,
environmental boards, national grass roots efforts, global efforts?
UniFormat>OCCS>MF2004 all talk about the same subjects in different ways.
A useful problem to resolve is being able to answer questions within the living
documents by automatically translating from UniFormat (GSA, Owner, BIMstorm) to
MF2004 (contract and construction documents) to OCCS (classification of the
entire built environment) ~ based on what the question is.
3) Purpose ( ~
Goals and Objectives) Do we need to make any distinctions between Purpose
and (G-O)?
Purpose, create the map. Goals, use the maps and create a framework for
repeatable QA structures.
4) Performance
Success Indicators: As we complete are Mission,
our performance itself should be measured and used to maintain progress or
change goals/expectations. I separated this into Strategic and
Operational Indicators. Toby's earlier material was inspiring.
Must also be tested against actual buildings, systems, and performance.
We could send the criteria to ASHRAE, CSI, and buildingSMART to see if the
critical points are being covered.
5) Use Cases Distilled
from earlier discussions. These Use Cases can evolve into a family of Projects
and tasks in building the Framework.
I wonder who would like to apply these results?
The document does not include 3 important areas that deserve
attention on the BSP Home Page.
Going Forward: We have set WEDNESDAY, July 9th, as
a change deadline. At least two ways to proceed:
Either: Edit at will, just remember to save often (others may
also be trying to edit)
And/Or: please use this message thread to expand on
needed changes.
I'll expand on the wiki
but would sincerely appreciate narrowing down the problem above to ontology
only so I can get this Excel file cleaner and more populated. Also, there are 3
architects at WDG who are going to look at the 10 types provided to give some
initial impressions on unusual and typical code compliance issues, probable
construction methods etc. We don't do costs but can narrow the types provided
into use groups and construction types.
Happy Independence Day
Deborah
Cheers,
Bob Smith
Tall Tree Labs
Vice Chair -HB C
Thanks Bob, will look for the updates and a call to
catch up btw Wed and Fri makes sense.
Deborah
On Sat,
Jul 5, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Bob Smith <bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Deborah,
What has to be done this week….
Michelle is (or has already) cleared up the BSP home page;
Bob is synthesizing that materials around the Mission and the Charter (with help from
Finith and Mike).
Depending on progress and loose ends, we might have a conference
call sometime between Wednesday and next Friday (July 11th).
All presenters should have their PPT uploaded by Friday (? My
recollections)
The outlying issues TBD by the deadline posted on the BSP
home page.
Cheers,
Bob
Has anything been resolved about the draft vs charter
- what needs to be done this week prior to the kick off to get the scope
settled and everyone on the same page? What are the outlying issues?
Deborah
On Sun,
Jun 29, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Michelle Raymond <michellearaymond@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Peter,
et. al.
The meeting on June 30th, has a big a focus on planning.
Thus it is a big aid to have the capability to real-time share
and create process maps, mind maps, project planning charts...
... in whatever format is effective for planning, this can be done in
as a Webinar.
Finith is the volunteer chair for this meeting and I am the volunteer
note taker.
If someone else hasn't already done so, I'll have all the
conference call (webinar) connection data, agenda, etc... in
the regular format at:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BuildingServicePerformance/ConferenceCall_2008_06_30,
however the details of the sub-levels of the agenda will be viewable
pre-meeting through the open links to the images provided by Finith,
(which are already available via a link on the main BSP page).
Notes, may be captured realtime in a mindmap or may be realtime
on the wiki page. That is TBD. Notes WILL be available in
wiki text with html links to open material formats on the wiki page,
after the call for all community members to access, edit and discuss.
RATIONAL:
As to how we got to trying a Webinar approach as a trial format for
this meeting and may have utilized variety of tools and file types that
are not all open... ... but will have a open view before the kickoff meeting.
I and others reviewed some of the open tools, tried them with a bit of
what BSP would need and could briefly show the results of those tools.
However, the outcome, from MY set of limited trials, is that we still need
a better open solution and should continue to seek suggestions.
Therefore, until we have a common open tool, in order to not slow
the planning process in the meantime, we are each using whatever tool
or file format we are currently comfortable with to show what we would
like to see in the resulting BSP, Project Team adopted, plan.
The results of the planning session, i.e. the proposed plan, WILL be
available in a format open to all. If that format requires anything
beyond
the standard browser based wiki interface, a version of the plan will be
put in plain text with only standard wiki markup.
Best regards,
Michelle
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Finith and Co-conveners of BSP,
>
> I am planning to join (but probably only for the first 30~45 minutes).
> I do want to say things during the call too, as the agenda items seem
> interesting and I can help convey various aspects of the current
> Ontolog community culture as needed (not that I have anything
> prepared.)
>
> I tried to register for the meeting, but found that I need to provide
> my name, email, address, etc. to this company "Citrix LLC (US)"
before
> I can participate. ... Categorically, I have trouble with that. ...
I
> also have trouble that people who may want to have a voice at this
> meeting has to register separately.
>
> Could you provide the numbers on the meeting session page, please (as
> usual) ...
>
> Thanks. =ppy
>
> P.S. May I know why are we trying to switch from the nominal Ontolog
> call infrastructure to "GoToWebinar"? Are they on open
technology?
> --
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Finith E Jernigan AIA
> <finith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>> Building Service Performance Regular Meeting 6/30/08 1:30PM EDT
>> Join us for a Webinar on June 30
>> Space is limited.
>> Reserve your Webinar seat now at:
>> https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/341175922
>> Regularily scheduled meeting for *Monday 30 June 2008*. There's
plenty to
>> discuss before the project kickoff.
>>
>> The Building Service Performance Project Kickoff is set
>> for Monday the 14th of July, and responses started coming
>> in within 1/2 hour of the invitation being sent.
>>
>> The agenda will include discussions of the following topics:
>> - Conference call / webinar etiquette
>> - Long Term Goals
>> - Making what we do make sense
>> - Current opportunities
>> - General principles in Ontology authoring
>> - Kick-off meeting July 14th, 2008
>>
>> By seperate email we will be forwarding a mindmap with agenda details
and
>> two pdf files for those without MindManager.
>>
>> NB. We are testing www.gotowebinar.com
for this meeting and will be using
>> the web interface for presenting the agenda items. Dial-in to the
meeing is
>> via the phone numbers included with this notice. NOTE that if you
intend to
>> speak in the webinar, you should dial-in using the Panelist Phone
Number and
>> Panelist Access Code provided.
>> Title: Building Service Performance Regular Meeting 6/30/08 1:30PM EST
>> Date:Monday, June 30, 2008
>> Time:1:30 PM - 3:00 PM EDT (10:30 PST, 14:30 UTC)
>> System Requirements
>> PC-based attendees
>> Required: Windows(R) 2000, XP Home, XP Pro, 2003 Server, Vista
>> Macintosh(R)-based attendees
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