OntologySummit2014 session-09 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - II - Thu 2014-03-13    (48HD)

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Abstract    (48J0)

Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - II ... intro slides    (48J1)

This is our 9th OntologySummit, a joint initiative by Ontolog, NIST, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors.    (48J2)

Since the beginnings of the Semantic Web, ontologies have played key roles in the design and deployment of new semantic technologies. Yet over the years, the level of collaboration between the Semantic Web and Applied Ontology communities has been much less than expected. Within Big Data applications, ontologies appear to have had little impact.    (48J3)

This year's Ontology Summit is an opportunity for building bridges between the Semantic Web, Linked Data, Big Data, and Applied Ontology communities. On the one hand, the Semantic Web, Linked Data, and Big Data communities can bring a wide array of real problems (such as performance and scalability challenges and the variety problem in Big Data) and technologies (automated reasoning tools) that can make use of ontologies. On the other hand, the Applied Ontology community can bring a large body of common reusable content (ontologies) and ontological analysis techniques. Identifying and overcoming ontology engineering bottlenecks is critical for all communities.    (48J4)

OntologySummit2014 will pose and address the primary challenges in these areas of interaction among the different communities. The Summit activities will bring together insights and methods from these different communities, synthesize new insights, and disseminate knowledge across field boundaries.    (48J5)

The key research question of Track B (Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques) is: what potential has Big Data for ontology-based services, and how can ontology tools and techniques be scaled to the Semantic Web and Big Data. The first three presentations feature innovative research and development of tools, services, and techniques, respectively. The first presentation will be about an enterprise platform that integrates and enhances several well-known ontology tools. The second presentation addresses the combination of linked data technology with web services. The third presentation presents a technique for engineering linked data vocabularies, i.e. lightweight ontologies that scale to the Web. The last presentation is about a service once more; however a service that immediately targets end users, in this specific case people interested in jazz.    (48KB)

These presentations will be followed by an open discussion on how to apply, reuse and evolve the tools, services and techniques presented.    (48J6)

See more details at: OntologySummit2014 (homepage for this summit)    (48J7)

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OntologySummit2014 session-09 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - II    (48JE)

Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call    (48JF)

Proceedings    (48JK)

Please refer to the above ... (details coming!)    (48JL)

IM Chat Transcript captured during the session:    (48JM)

 see raw transcript here.    (48JN)
 (for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.)
 Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit.    (48JO)
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	Chat transcript from room: summit_20140313
	2014-03-13 GMT-08:00 [PDT]
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	[8:33] PeterYim: Welcome to the    (49WJ)
	 = OntologySummit2014 session-09 Track-B: Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - II - Thu 2014-03-13 =    (49WK)
	Summit Theme: Summit Theme: OntologySummit2014: "Big Data and Semantic Web Meet Applied Ontology"    (49WL)
	Session Topic: Track B: "Making use of Ontologies: Tools, Services, and Techniques - II"    (49WM)
	Track Co-champions: 
	* Dr. ChristophLange (University of Bonn / Fraunhofer IAIS) - (session chair)
	* Professor AlanRector (University of Manchester)    (49WN)
	Panelists / Briefings:    (49WO)
	* Mr. MikeBergman (Structured Dynamics LLC, USA) - OSF (Open Semantic Framework): An Ontology-driven Semantic Platform for Enterprises"    (49WP)
	* Dr. JoseMariaGarcia (STI Innsbruck, Austria) - "Linked Services Initiatives: Lightweight semantics for services on the Web of Data"    (49WQ)
	* Ms. MariaPovedaVillalon (Ontology Engineering Group, Universidad Politécnica de Madrid, Spain)
	  - "A Reuse-based Lightweight Method for Developing Linked Data Ontologies and Vocabularies"    (49WR)
	* Dr. CristinaPattuelli (Pratt Institute, New York, USA) - "The Linked Jazz Project" ... (tentative)    (49WS)
	Logistics:    (49WT)
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	Attendees: AliHashemi, AnatolyLevenchuk, AnettHoppe, BartGajderowicz, BobbinTeegarden, BruceBray, 
	CarmenChui, CarolBean, ChristophLange, ConradBeaulieu, DaliaVaranka, DennisWisnosky, EarlGlynn, 
	EdBernot, HaroldBoley, JaanaTakis, JamesOverton, JohnBerezowski, JoseMariaGarcia, LamarHenderson, 
	LeoObrst, LesMorgan, LianaKiff, MarcelaVegetti, MariaPoveda, MarkFox, MatthewWest, MichaelGruninger, 
	MikeBergman, MikeDean, NaicongLi, NancyWiegand, OliverKutz, PeterHaase, PeterYim, RamSriram, 
	RichardMartin, ShahanKhatchadourian, SiewLam, SimonSpero, SundayOjo, TerryLongstreth, TimFinin, 
	ToddSchneider, VitLibal    (49WZ)
	 == proceedings ==    (49X0)
	[9:23] anonymous morphed into JoseMariaGarcia    (49X1)
	[9:27] anonymous morphed into AnettHoppe    (49X2)
	[9:29] anonymous morphed into MariaPoveda    (49X3)
	[9:29] ShahanKhatchadourian: hi all    (49X4)
	[9:30] MariaPoveda: Hi all    (49X5)
	[9:31] MatthewWest: Just a small thing about how to respond including the timestamp. We each get our 
	local time, so at present the timestamp I am seeing is 16:30.    (49X6)
	[9:34] PeterYim: good point, Matthew ... people can do something like [xx:31] or [+0:31], [+1:31] 
	... anyhow, when I edit the transcript, I will convert them back to the same time-zone so that the 
	transcript is "intelligible"    (49X7)
	[9:36] anonymous morphed into MikeBergman    (49X8)
	[9:37] anonymous morphed into JohnB    (49X9)
	[9:43] PeterYim: @JohnB ... please morph into your full name (we use real names here, and that will 
	allow everyone to know who you are, and to properly attribute your contributions) Thanks in advance.    (49XA)
	[11:31] PeterYim: @JohnB ... I assume that's JohnBerezowski, right?    (49XB)
	[11:32] JohnB: right    (49XC)
	[9:38] PeterYim: == ChristophLange starts the session ... see slides under: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_03_13#nid48HP    (49XD)
	[9:44] anonymous morphed into LamarHenderson    (49XE)
	[9:46] PeterYim: == MikeBergman presenting ...    (49XF)
	[9:47] anonymous morphed into MarkFox    (49XG)
	[9:50] anonymous morphed into BobbinTeegarden    (49XH)
	[9:54] PeterYim: @MikeBergman - can you provide links to some of the ontologies that are used in the 
	examples you have cited?    (49XI)
	[9:57] ToddSchneider: Yes, the actual ontologies not images. In particular, the relations.    (49XJ)
	[9:59] ToddSchneider: MikeBergman, which reasoner(s) in used in OSF?    (49XK)
	[10:07] anonymous morphed into LesMorgan    (49XL)
	[10:07] LesMorgan: Regarding the Drupal integraton, has anyone attempted integrating OSF with 
	Wordpress?    (49XM)
	[10:10] DennisWisnosky: How are Drupal and GitHub used together in OSF?    (49XN)
	[10:10] ToddSchneider: MikeBergman, is OSF focused on user 'read' interactions (i.e., users don't 
	modify the underlying data)?    (49XO)
	[10:26] JaanaTakis: @MikeBergman. Drupal RDF support - was the maturity sufficient for what you 
	envisioned?    (49XP)
	[10:35] SimonSpero: @DennisWisnosky [13:10]: GitHub is a system for supporting distributed software 
	development that happens to be where OSF is hosted. Drupal is a Content Management System.    (49XQ)
	[10:43] DennisWisnosky: @simonSpero: GitHub manages repositories. Repositories have content. Doesn't 
	this make GitHub a content management system?    (49XR)
	[10:45] DennisWisnosky: GitHub as a CMS to end CMSes - Paul Hammant's blog 
	May 8, 2011 - Exec Summary GitHub can be used as a site serving tool. It is actually a pretty 
	usable CMS even for non-technical folks. With some more ...    (49XS)
	[11:30] MikeBergman: @DennisWisnosky: we use GitHub as our code repository, and not as a CMS; there 
	is no relation to Drupal    (49XT)
	[10:09] PeterYim: == JoseMariaGarcia presenting ...    (49XU)
	[10:18] anonymous morphed into JaanaTakis    (49XV)
	[10:26] anonymous morphed into ConradBeaulieu    (49XW)
	[10:40] PeterYim: @JoseMariaGarcia - in observing your KISS principle, do you run into problems with 
	expressivity? (services can be complex to describe!)    (49XX)
	[10:55] JoseMariaGarcia: @PeterYim [18:40]: Indeed, that may be a problem. That is why we are 
	looking at real examples and figuring out whether we can describe them in full or not. And so far 
	this methodology has been working well for us. Ultimately, the use of Linked Data principles will 
	always allow to link the description to more complex vocabularies (or ontologies, depending on the 
	definition from MariaPoveda ;) in case you need more details to be described.    (49XY)
	[10:56] PeterYim: @JoseMariaGarcia, thank you    (49XZ)
	[10:40] PeterYim: == MariaPovedaVillalon presenting ...    (49Y0)
	[10:54] anonymous morphed into VitLibal    (49Y1)
	[10:55] PeterYim: @MariaPoveda, (slide#9) can you repeat the acronym that you are using for the 
	methodology that you are proposing, please? (missed that when you presented that verbally)    (49Y2)
	[10:55] ChristophLange: I think the acronym was LOT = Linked Open Terms    (49Y3)
	[10:57] PeterYim: @ChristophLange, thank you    (49Y4)
	[11:12] MariaPoveda: Yes, the acronym is LOT Linked Open Terms    (49Y5)
	[11:07] NancyWiegand: @current speaker or anyone, How do you find URIs already used in linked data 
	that could be used for your own data? Are tools being written to search the LOD?    (49Y6)
	[11:12] SimonSpero: @NancyWiegand : http://datahub.io/dataset    (49Y7)
	[11:12] PeterYim: == CristinaPattuelli does not seem to have been able to join us ... so moving on    (49Y8)
	[11:12] PeterYim: == Q & A and Open Discussion ...    (49Y9)
	[11:14] LesMorgan: @MikeBergman: has anyone tried integrating OSF with the Wordpress CMS rather than 
	the Drupal CMS? Wordpress is much more widely used.    (49YA)
	[11:22] LesMorgan: http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=wordpress,%20drupal,%20joomla    (49YB)
	[11:23] LesMorgan: the link shows comparative interest in Drupal vs Wordpress    (49YC)
	[11:23] LesMorgan: graph shows Drupal has a declining popularity index, while Wordpress has strong growth    (49YD)
	[11:24] LesMorgan: Porting some of the Drupal front-end plugins might not be very difficult    (49YE)
	[11:31] MikeBergman: @LesMorgan: we have a PHP API that should work well with WP, though I don't 
	know of anyone who has done so    (49YF)
	[11:34] LesMorgan: Mike, I will pursue the API with you directly. We have a current development requirement.    (49YG)
	[11:13] DennisWisnosky: @MariaPoveda: shida@uga.edu Shima Dastgheib is doing work that is related, 
	minus the Ontology quality work.    (49YH)
	[11:07] JaanaTakis: @MariaPoveda, are you aware of any plans to develop tools that would follow this 
	methodology, or incorporate the approach into existing tools? Is it an aim?    (49YI)
	[11:14] MariaPoveda: @JaanaTakis, I plan to develop some missing parts and try to integrate with the 
	systems that are already there    (49YJ)
	[11:14] MariaPoveda: for example I have integrated TripleChecker into OOPS! already    (49YK)
	[11:15] JaanaTakis: @MariaPoveda, what is a good link to stay informed of any further developments on this?    (49YL)
	[11:16] MariaPoveda: @JaanaTakis, as you have asked for it I'll set up a website, so far my only 
	development is about ontology evaluation and you can follow news at twitter    (49YM)
	[11:16] MariaPoveda: https://twitter.com/OOPSoeg and it website http://www.oeg-upm.net/oops/    (49YN)
	[11:17] JaanaTakis: thank you!    (49YO)
	[11:18] MariaPoveda: welcome :-)    (49YP)
	[11:21] ChristophLange: FYI Track D on "Variety": search 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014 for "Variety" to see what has happened so far there?    (49YQ)
	[11:23] ChristophLange: http://neologism.deri.ie/about    (49YR)
	[11:23] ChristophLange: Neologism is a Drupal-based editor for vocabularies    (49YS)
	[10:22] SimonSpero: @MikeBergman: Looking at the OSF, it looks like some of the ontologies are not RDF compatible OWL2 
	( e.g. https://github.com/structureddynamics/Ontologies-Open-Semantic-Framework/blob/master/iron/iron.owl )    (49YT)
	[10:24] SimonSpero: @MikeBergman: e.g. iron:altLabel is a declared a datatype property, which has an 
	owl:equivalentProperty declaration to skos:altLabel, which is an annotation property.    (49YU)
	[11:26] MikeBergman: @SimonSpero: good catch on iron; we actually use that vocabulary offline as a 
	means of migrating XML, CSV or JSON data to our triple store    (49YV)
	[11:27] TerryLongstreth: [on the verbal remark from MariaPoveda that she does not consider Protege 
	"heavy-weight," but ChristophLange countered that Protege may already be "heavy-weight"] Protege may 
	not be heavy-weight to a rising Ontology PhD, but it's not intuitive to the journeyman programmer.    (49YW)
	[11:32] PeterYim: @ALL: if you are not subscribed to the [ontology-summit] mailing list yet, please 
	do so (and participate in the ongoing asynchronous discourse) - 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/mailman/listinfo/ontology-summit (or drop me a line - peter.yim [at] cim3.com)    (49YX)
	[11:32] PeterYim: @ALL: as announced by our Symposium co-chairs, Professor TimFinin and Dr. Ram 
	Sriram yesterday, our Apr 28~29 Symposium (at NSF in Greater Washington DC) is now open for 
	registration. Please register yourself ASAP, as capacity is limited - see: 
	http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2014/WorkshopRegistration    (49YY)
	[11:32] PeterYim: @ALL: Please mark you calendars and reserve this time, every Thursday, for the OntologySummit2014 virtual panel session series. 
	In particular ... Session-10 will be up next Thursday - Thu 2014.03.20 - OntologySummit2014: ""Track C: Overcoming Ontology Engineering Bottlenecks - II "
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	- see developing details at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2014_03_20 ... the start-time fopr various time-zones will be clearly posted there    (49YZ)
	[11:33] PeterYim: great session!    (49Z0)
	[11:33] MariaPoveda: bye    (49Z1)
	[11:33] ChristophLange: thanks all, bye!    (49Z2)
	[11:33] PeterYim: -- session ended: 11:30am PDT --    (49Z3)
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