OntologySummit2012: Pre-Symposium Session - Thu 2012-04-05 (38VL)
Summit Theme: OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems" (397E)
Session Topic: Pre-symposium preparation & Communique Review-II (397F)
Session Co-chairs: MichaelGruninger, ToddSchneider & AliHashemi ... intro-slides (397G)
OntologySummit2012_Communique Symposium Co-chairs: RamSriram & MichaelGruninger (397H)
OntologySummit2012_Communique co-Lead Editors: ToddSchneider & AliHashemi (397I)
Panelists: (397J)
- OntologySummit2012_Symposium Co-chairs: RamSriram and MichaelGruninger (397K)
- Track Champions and Co-editors of the Communique (397L)
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering - MatthewWest & HensonGraves - (Track-1&2 Synthesis page) (397M)
- Track-3: Challenge: Ontology and Big Data - ErnieLucier & MaryBrady - (Track-3 Synthesis page) (397N)
- Track-4: Large-Scale Domain Applications - SteveRay & TrishWhetzel - (Track-4 Synthesis page) (397O)
- Cross-Track-A1: Ontology Quality and Large-Scale Systems - AmandaVizedom & MikeBennett - (Track-A1 Synthesis page) (397P)
- Cross-Track-A2: Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems - CoryCasanave & AnatolyLevenchuk - (Track-A2 Synthesis page) (397Q)
- OntologySummit2012 General Co-chairs: LeoObrst and NicolaGuarino - (OntologySummit2012 Theme and Goal) (397R)
- Abstract (397T)
- Agenda (397U)
- Prepared material can be accessed by clicking on each of the title links below: (397V)
- [ 0-Chair ] . [ S1-Symposium-agenda ] . [ S2-Symposium-logistics ] . [ 1-Communique-draft ] . [ 2-Track-1&2-synthesis ] . [ 3-Track-3-synthesis ] . [ 4-Track-4-synthesis ] . [ 5-X-Track-A1-synthesis ] . [ 6-X-Track-A2-synthesis ] (397W)
- Audio recording of the session [ 0:52:37 ; mp3 ; 6.02 MB ] (397X)
- transcript of the online chat during the session (397Y)
- Additional Resources (397Z)
Conference Call Details (38VM)
- Date: Thursday, 5-Apr-2012 (3980)
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Attendees (398R)
- Attended (incl. registered attendees): (398S)
- MichaelGruninger (co-chair) (398V)
- RamSriram (398W)
- ToddSchneider (co-chair) (398X)
- AliHashemi (co-chair) (398Y)
- HensonGraves (3990)
- ErnieLucier (3991)
- SteveRay (3993)
- TrishWhetzel (3994)
- AmandaVizedom (3995)
- MikeBennett (3996)
- CoryCasanave (3997)
- AnatolyLevenchuk (3998)
- LeoObrst (3999)
- NicolaGuarino (399A)
- PeterYim (399B)
- EdLowry (39BP)
- DennisWisnosky (39BR)
- DeborahMacPherson (39FS)
- TerryLongstreth (39JI)
- PavithraKenjige (399C)
- BobbinTeegarden (39MZ)
- HasanSayani (39N0)
- LinePouchard (398T)
- DougFoxvog (3992)
- ... (39ND)
- Expecting: (398U)
- (please add yourself to the list if you are a member of the Ontolog or OntologySummit community, or, rsvp to <peter.yim@cim3.com>) (399D)
- Regrets: (399E)
- MatthewWest (398Z)
- ... (399F)
Abstract: (399G)
Session Topic: Organizing the 'Big' Communique (399H)
This is our 7th Ontology Summit, a joint initiative by NIST, Ontolog, NCOR, NCBO, IAOA & NCO_NITRD with the support of our co-sponsors. The theme adopted for this Ontology Summit is: "Ontology for Big Systems." The event today is our last virtual session prior to the OntologySummit2012 (F2F) Workshop and symposium at NIST next week. (399I)
The principal goal of the summit is to bring together and foster collaboration between the ontology community, systems community, and stakeholders of some of "big systems." Together, the summit participants will exchange ideas on how ontological analysis and ontology engineering might make a difference, when applied in these "big systems." We will aim towards producing a series of recommendations describing how ontologies can create an impact; as well as providing illustrations where these techniques have been, or could be, applied in domains such as bioinformatics, electronic health records, intelligence, the smart electrical grid, manufacturing and supply chains, earth and environmental, e-science, cyberphysical systems and e-government. (399J)
As is traditional with the Ontology Summit series, the collective results of this extended discourse will be captured in the form of a communiqué, with expanded supporting material provided on the web. (399K)
The goal of this session is two fold. We want to spend some time on preparing participants for and answering questions relating to the Apr. 12&13 workshop and symposium. The rest (and the bulk) of the session will be devoted to reviewing the OntologySummit2012_Communique/Draft that the co-Lead Editors have crafted (and published 4-Apr-2012), based on the inputs of all track champions and participants of last week's session. Any "request for change" to this draft received today and prior to the closing of the comment period (which is set at end-of-day tomorrow, 6-Apr-2012) will then be considered for inclusion by the Lead Editors, who will then come up with a final draft of the Communiqué that they will publish by Apr. 9, 2012, getting all of us ready for the OntologySummit2012_Symposium. (399L)
More details about this Summit at: OntologySummit2012 (home page for the summit) (399M)
Agenda: (399N)
Ontology Summit 2012 - Pre-symposium Session (399O)
- Session Format: this is a virtual session conducted over an augmented conference call (399P)
- 0. Opening (co-chairs) - MichaelGruninger / ToddSchneider / AliHashemi ... [ slides/material ] (399Q)
- 1. OntologySummit2012_Symposium - MichaelGruninger (399R)
- 2. Q&A relating to the symposium - All ... ref.: process above (399S)
- 3. Presenting the OntologySummit2012_Communique/Draft - ToddSchneider / AliHashemi (399T)
- 4. Open discussion and review of "change reuqests" - All (39BO)
- 5. Status review / Follow-up actions - (co-chairs) ... ref.: process above (399U)
- 6. Announcements / Wrap Up - (co-chairs) (399V)
Proceedings: (399W)
Please refer to the above (399X)
IM Chat Transcript captured during the session: (399Y)
see raw transcript here. (399Z)
(for better clarity, the version below is a re-organized and lightly edited chat-transcript.) Participants are welcome to make light edits to their own contributions as they see fit. (39A0)
-- begin in-session chat-transcript -- (39A1)
[09:26] PeterYim: Welcome to the (39OW)
= OntologySummit2012: pre-symposium session - Thu 2012-04-05 = (39OX)
Summit Theme: OntologySummit2012: "Ontology for Big Systems" (39OY)
Session Topic: Pre-symposium preparation & Communique Review-II (39OZ)
Session co-Chairs: Professor Michael Gruninger, Dr. ToddSchneider & Mr. AliHashemi (39P0)
Session page: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_04_05 (39P1)
Mute control: *7 to un-mute ... *6 to mute (39P2)
Can't find Skype Dial pad? ... it's under the "Call" dropdown menu as "Show Dial pad" (39P3)
== Proceedings: == (39P4)
[09:34] anonymous1 morphed into DougFoxvog (39P5)
[09:34] anonymous morphed into HasanSayani (39P6)
[09:39] RamSriram: @Michael: Dr. Charles Romine, Director of the Information Technology Laboratory, will be making the welcoming remarks. (39P7)
[09:44] LinePouchard: @Ram: is this Chuck Romine who used to be at ORNL a decade ago? (39P8)
[09:46] RamSriram: @LinePouchard: Yes. Same person. He is the director of ITL now. (39P9)
[09:41] ToddSchneider: Does any one have the text of the 'Fabian Rule' (39PA)
[09:45] PeterYim: +1 on Nicola's suggestion extending the Track 1&2 report time (Michael: we'll add another 15 min.) (39PB)
[09:48] LeoObrst: Just joining late. (39PC)
[09:49] AmandaVizedom: I could volunteer to bring a K-cup coffee maker. ;-) (39PD)
[09:51] DougFoxvog: @Amanda: What is the value of K? 8)# (39PE)
[09:53] DougFoxvog: ! This system rotated part of my smiley! I'll try again. 8 )# (39PF)
[09:56] AmandaVizedom: [ref. Michael's request that all demo presenters should have sent him their demo title and abstract] Whoops - Sorry Michael, will send. (39PG)
[09:50] ToddSchneider: [ref. Peter's request that slides be ready by end-of-day Monday 4/9] Peter, the slides from Ali and I will be delayed. (39PH)
[09:55] PeterYim: @Todd, @Ali - I would assume you guys will have multiple slide deck over the two days ... the last of which (though optional) would be the final presentation on the communique (i.e. the communique on slides - which MichaelUschold did well on, last year, but again this is not mandatory) (39PI)
[09:56] PeterYim: ... for that last set of slides, you'd probably not be in a position to prepare them until after the day-1 sessions are through (39PJ)
[09:56] ToddSchneider: Peter, I would think the communique would speak for itself. But I'll look at what MichaelUschold provided. (39PK)
[09:56] LeoObrst: where are the slides? (39PL)
[09:57] PeterYim: @Leo - see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2012_04_05#nid397V (39PM)
[09:57] DeborahMacPherson: [ref. Michael's question on whether Deborah has a demo too] Must be a different Deborah? Is it the posters (39PN)
[09:57] DeborahMacPherson: It must be for the posters - see http://scimaps.org would like to bring some data visualizations of big systems for display (39PO)
[09:58] DeborahMacPherson: Thanks! (39PP)
[09:59] PeterYim: [ref. Peter's asking people to get registered to attend the workshop/symposium] see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2012/WorkshopRegistration (39PQ)
[10:00] PeterYim: list of people who have registered so far are on that page too (39PR)
[09:59] ToddSchneider: Nicola, will you be at the symposium (in person)? (39PS)
[10:03] NicolaGuarino: @Todd: yes (39PT)
[09:57] NicolaGuarino: Michael, where are the questions you mentioned (to be used for the panelists)? (39PU)
[10:10] MichaelGruninger: Proposed Panel Questions: 1. Why are ontologies important to the success of your work? 2. Can you share any specific success metrics from the application of ontologies? 3. How does your work fit into the Big Data picture (if at all)? 4. What are some of the exciting initiatives that you've seen - who should we watch and why? 5. What is the killer app using your work that you're hoping to see emerge over the next few years? 6. Why are ontologies essential for modeling systems? 7. Why are ontologies essential for integration / federation of systems? 8. How do ontologies help address Interdisciplinary Collaboration? 9. Has anyone quantified and is willing to share any of the costs associated with the lack of ontologies in {modeling, integration, federation, collaboration}? (39PV)
[09:56] TerryLongstreth: @MichaelGruninger: If you're going to have each member of the panel respond to each question, you should probably reduce the number of questions. (39PW)
[09:57] MichaelGruninger: @Terry: ok, we will prioritize the questions (39PX)
[10:11] MichaelGruninger: The first five or six questions will probably be the best; the remaining questions can be used if we have time (39PY)
[10:11] NicolaGuarino: @Peter: I will be dumb, but still I am not able to see the pointer to these slides in the conference call web page. (39PZ)
[10:11] AliHashemi: @Nicola: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2012/OntologySummit2012_Communique/2012-04-05_draft-review/OntologySummit2012_pre-symposium-session_20120405.pdf (39Q0)
[10:13] PeterYim: (just repeating what I said verbally earlier) All slides and materials (demo-video-clips, etc.) for the workshop & symposium (i.e. things that need to be shared with on-site and remote participants) needs to be emailed to the symposium chairs and to me by end-of-day Monday Apr-9 (or at least a note to say you needed more time), please (39Q1)
[10:13] PeterYim: slides should be in pdf format and with all slides numbered ... PLEASE! (39Q2)
[10:14] NicolaGuarino: @Ali: Sorry I missed whether it is fine to edit the communique directly, in addition to posting comments (39Q3)
[10:15] AliHashemi: The google doc does not currently allow others to edit. (39Q4)
[10:17] NicolaGuarino: I noticed it. However it would be much easier to do (limited) changes than post comments. Anyway, it's your choice. (39Q5)
[10:17] AliHashemi: The way it's currently set up, I am sharing a public link and anyone with a link can view. I can add specific users with edit capability (39Q6)
[10:31] DeborahMacPherson: Bye - see you next week (39Q7)
[10:31] PeterYim: very productive session ... thanks! (39Q8)
[10:32] PeterYim: -- session ended: 10:31am PDT -- (39Q9)
-- end of in-session chat-transcript -- (39A2)
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Additional Resources: (39AH)
- Homepage of OntologySummit2012 (39AI)
- OntologySummit2012 Launch Event - ConferenceCall_2012_01_12 (39AJ)
- OntologySummit2012 session-02 "Ontology for Big Systems: What's In Scope" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_19 (39AK)
- OntologySummit2012 session-03 "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - I : The Systems and Systems Engineering Problem Space" - ConferenceCall_2012_01_26 (39AL)
- OntologySummit2012 session-04 - "Ontology for Big Systems & Systems Engineering - II : a response to the problem space and setting out the working program for this Summit Track" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_02 (39AM)
- OntologySummit2012 session-05 - "Meeting Big Data Challenges through Ontology - I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_09 (39AN)
- OntologySummit2012 session-06 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications I" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_16 (39AO)
- OntologySummit2012 session-07 - "Implementing Ontology Quality Measures in Big Systems Engineering" - ConferenceCall_2012_02_23 (39AP)
- OntologySummit2012 session-08 - "Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_01 (39AQ)
- OntologySummit2012 session-09 - "Large-Scale Domain Applications II" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_08 (39AR)
- OntologySummit2012 session-10 - "Big Data Developing Challenges" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_15 (39AS)
- OntologySummit2012 session-11 - "Big Systems: The ontology of System Components, and System Modelling Language Requirements" - ConferenceCall_2012_03_22 (39AT)
- Wiki pages devoted to the focused discourse by Tracks: (39AU)
- Track-1&2: Ontology for Big Systems and Systems Engineering (39AV)
- Track-3: Challenge: Ontology and Big Data (39AY)
- Track-4: Large-scale Domain Applications (39B1)
- Cross-Track-A1: Ontology Quality and Large-Scale Systems (39B4)
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_CommunityInput (open) (39B5)
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_Synthesis (maintained by AmandaVizedom, MikeBennett) (39B6)
- OntologySummit2012_Quality_CommunityInput (open) (39B5)
- Cross-Track-A2: Ontology for Federation and Integration of Systems (39B7)
- Summit Communique: (39BA)
- OntologySummit2012 Communique Draft - on [ google-doc] (39BB)
- OntologySummit2012_Communique/Draft (maintained by the communique co-editors) (39BC)
- OntologySummit2012_Communique (maintained by the co-lead editors) (39BD)
- List of References - OntologySummit2012_RecommendedReading (maintained by AmandaVizedom) (39BE)
- [ontology-summit] mailing list archives - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/ (39BF)
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- Homepage of the Summit series - see: OntologySummit (39BH)
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