ConferenceCall 2006 01 26

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2006-01-26    (JGU)

Conference Call Details    (JGV)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2006-01-26    (JGW)

• Date: Thursday, Jan. 26, 2006    (JH4)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST / 18:30 UTC World Clock    (JH5)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (JH6)
• Dial-in Number: 1-641-696-6600 (Iowa) - note: new call-in number and access code    (JH7)
• Participant Access Code: "68656#"    (JH8)

• Agenda Comments:    (JGX)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (JGY)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (JGZ)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (JH0)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (JH1)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (JH2)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2006_01_26    (JH3)

Attendees    (JH9)

• Attended:    (JHA)
  • KurtConrad    (JHD)
  • PeterYim (chair)    (JHC)
  • BobSmith    (JKK)
  • LeoObrst    (JN5)
  • EMichaelMaximilien    (JKL)
  • MonicaMartin    (JKT)
  • AndersTell    (JMY)

• Expecting:    (JHB)
  • ...(add your name here)...''    (JHE)

• Regrets:    (JHF)
  • SteveRay    (JKU)
  • PaulKoch    (JKV)
  • PatCassidy    (JKW)

Agenda Ideas    (JHG)

• ...(add suggested items here)...    (JHH)

Agenda & Proceedings    (JHI)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (JHK)

• PeterYim took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (JHL)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (JHM)

• PeterYim volunteered    (JHN)

3) Roll-call of participants    (JHO)

• see above    (JHP)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (JHQ)

• Reference: Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (JHR)
  • member regular meeting    (JHS)
  • invited speaker session    (JHT)
  • scheduled discussion    (JHU)
  • project review    (JHV)
  • workshop / work session    (JHW)
  • planning    (JHX)

• Scheduled Ontolog Events (point person)    (JHY)
  • Thu Feb. 2, 2006 - NicolaGuarino - "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience" - confirmed (LeoObrst)    (JHZ)
  • Thu Mar. 2, 2006 - AsumanDogac - "Exploiting ebXML Registry Semantics in the eHealth Domain" - confirmed (MonicaMartin)    (JI0)
  • Thu Mar. 15, 2006 - UpperOntologySummit - Moderator: SteveRay - organizing committee formed and working on it (PeterYim)    (JI1)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months - discussion postponed    (JI2)
  • Candidate -    (JI3)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's response)    (JI4)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (JI5)
    • John Sowa (suggested by BillMcCarthy)    (JI6)
  • other suggestions:    (JI7)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (JI8)
    • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (JI9)
    • Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time    (JIA)
    • Rex / Peter: XMDR - BruceBargmeyer or someone from his XMDR team    (JIB)
    • PeterYim / ElisaKendall: PatHayes, DeborahMcGuinness    (JIC)
    • To be brought up for discussion:    (JID)
      • ChrisMenzel: BillAndersen    (JIE)
      • BrandNiemann / MarkMusen / PeterYim: Frank Hartel (NIH/NCI)    (JIF)
      • BrandNiemann / PeterYim: RoyRoebuck    (JIG)
      • DuaneNickull: suggesting candidates from Microsoft - Phil Berstein & Sergey Melnik - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-08/msg00027.html    (JIH)
      • DuaneNickull: EricMiller, Tim Berners-Lee of W3C    (JII)
      • ChrisMenzel & PeterYim: ChrisMenzel some time early 2006 - on some of the work he is doing at Boeing)    (JIJ)
      • PeterBrown & PeterYim (new!): PeterBrown some time early 2006 - on the EU project that PeterBrown has been working on in Austria: of building an "eGovernment Resources Network" - the issues relating to handling the exchange of reference information about eGovernment services across the continent - in many languages. This could serve as an interesting case study of what we are looking for from so-called "semantic web services".    (JIK)
      • BrandNiemann (new! input/2005.10.15): EricPeterson - who's been working on an OWL version of the FEA-DRM and who will lead the COSMO development subgroup in the newly formed SICoP / ONTAC-WG    (JIL)
      • MillsDavis (new! / 2005.11.26) - Conor Shankey (CEO, Visual Knowledge)    (JIM)
      • PeterYim (new! / 2005.11.28) - AdamCheyer, SRI, on the CALO project    (JIN)
      • PeterYim (new! Prompted by Doug Lenat's talk) - MikeGenesereth (director of the Stanford Logic Group)    (JIO)
      • BobSmith / PeterYim / EMichaelMaximilien (new! / 2006.01.09) - TomGruber    (JIP)
      • suggest we also try to invite candidate speakers to join us at weekly calls and other ontolog events so that they get more familiar with the community and vice versa    (JIQ)
      • RexBrooks (new! / 2006.01.25) - JoeChiusano    (JIR)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months - candidates: - discussion postponed    (JIS)
  • Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up to the last SOA discussion    (JIT)
  • Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel    (JIU)
  • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (JIV)
  • NicolasRouquette -- other topics lined up?    (JIW)
  • Other candidates:    (JIX)
    • Rex: propose "Emergency Response"    (JIY)
    • Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane.    (JIZ)
    • Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion    (JJ0)
    • Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war)    (JJ1)
      • Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, tec.    (JJ2)
    • PeterYim: "moving from data standards to data-model- and semantic-model-driven eBusiness standards"    (JJ3)
      • candidate panelists: BruceBarqmeyer, MarkCrawford, ElisaKendall, AdamPease, MikeDaconta, JimHendler, SteveRay (moderator?)    (JJ4)
      • maybe a joint SICoP-Ontolog event, as part of another Collaborative Expedition Workshop?    (JJ5)
    • more session for the "Ontolgy Applications and Implementations" series    (JJ6)
    • (new! 2006.01.26) - tagging multimedia and other Ontolog content for podcast & semantic search    (JND)

• Upcoming Events of interest    (JJ7)
  • February 9-10, 2006 - Fourth Semantic Interoperability for E-Government Conference - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FourthSemanticInteroperabilityforEGovernmentConference_2006_2_0910    (JJ8)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (JJ9)

• (new!) Ontolog podcast - EMichaelMaximilien (Thanks, Max!)    (JKM)
  • see: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nidJMZ    (JN0)
  • see also: iTunes screen shot of our podcast (courtesy ShinyaYamada).    (JN2)
  • shall we advertise? --ppy: don't do this quite yet ... wait till we have someone to sponsor the bandwidth/traffic, it could become costly if we actually got lucky (and got popular!)    (JN3)
  • solicitation from Max - need volunteers to work on the items below:    (JN7)
    • pelase review the "description" and feedback on what is preferred - ref. that for 2004.09.08 and before, or 2004.09.24 and after    (JN8)
      • Bob & Peter feels that the version used in 2004.09.08 and before is better    (JN9)
    • copyright statements need to be customized    (JNA)
    • ownership need to be customized    (JNB)
    • keyword lists need to be customized    (JNC)
  • this dovetails into what NicolasRouquette have been trying to get the community to do -- tagging the community content    (JNE)
    • all: let's put this in as a candidate technical discussion session    (JNF)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (JJA)

• Reveiw of the Thu 2005.12.15 "Ontology Applications and Implementations" session    (JJB)
  • what was good    (JJC)
    • had a flurry of submissions after closing, therefore, we have a few on queue now    (JNG)
    • had 17 people in the audience - reasonable crowd    (JNH)
  • what needs improvement    (JJD)
  • how would we do it differently next time    (JJE)
    • BobSmith: maybe have presentaters structure it to tell us:    (JNI)
      • what is the application?    (JNJ)
      • what tools were used?    (JNK)
      • what does the ontology look like, and how was it applied?    (JNL)
      • how long did it take to implement, how big a scope, ...    (JNM)
      • how successful was it?    (JNN)
      • ref. topquadrant, michael denny, mark musen's Applied Ontologies magazine for matrices    (JNO)
  • other input    (JJF)
    • Kurt: would not be hard to put together another session; probably only need a leadtime of 2~3 weeks    (JNP)

• Review of the 2005.01.12 & 01.19 LeoObrst "What is an Ontology?" sessions - discussion postponed    (JKN)
  • what was good    (JKO)
  • what needs improvement    (JKP)
    • BobSmith: Suggestion about the 30 minute Introductions Phase of Presentations with LARGE attendees: Eliminate it... (Yes, I know it is sometimes helpful, but we should be able to get this info in better ways....)    (JKQ)
  • how would we do it differently next time    (JKR)
  • other input    (JKS)

• Engaging UN/CEFACT:    (JJG)
  • Anders: ready to find a way forward    (JNQ)
  • Kurt: the status - our input to UN/CEFACT, and interaction with Duane & Mary Kay    (JNR)
  • Anders: Modelers Reference Initiative (MRI) - a community (just started) now going with a bi-weekly (generally alternating Wednesdays) conference call    (JNT)
    • would like to invite Ontolog to present    (JNU)
    • can reciprocate by directing people to Ontolog    (JNV)
  • Kurt: let's track when a new version (where some of our comments were folded in) comes out that we should further comment on    (JNW)
  • Peter / Anders: let's try to have a phone-bridged joint sub-session betwwen the March UpperOntologySummit and the UN/CEFACT meeting (they both happen on the same week.) - [Anders and Peter to work out the details off-line]    (JNX)
    • best possibility is late mroning EST / early morning PST Wed 3/15/06 maybe 1 hour to share between UN/CEFACT and the UO folks    (JNY)
      • (updated/--ppy) on further discussion, phone conferencing does not seem to be the most appropriate medium after all; we'll focus on doing the following (as suggested by Anders)    (JOW)
  • Anders: look forward to possibility of someone from Ontolog presenting at the March 2006 UN/CEFACT meeting in Vancouver    (JNS)
    • candiate speaker from Ontolog: Kurt, Bob or Duane to be our ambassador    (JNZ)
      • (update/--Kurt) Kurt will not be available to travel that week, he'll try to ping Bob or Duane to see if they can do it.    (JOX)

• Presenting at the OASIS Symposium 2006 (9-12 May 2006, San Francisco, CA) - Proposal submission deadline: 20 December 2005 - discussion postponed    (JJK)
  • Duane and Rex are submitting, requesting that they cover our (Ontolog) work as a sidebar    (JJL)
  • anyone from here going to present?    (JJM)

• Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in our exercise on RegularConferenceCall scheduling -- (Bob / Nicolas - please bring closure to this item) - discussion postponed    (JJN)

7) Current Project Status Report - discussion postponed    (JJO)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (JJP)
  • Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases)    (JJQ)
  • Formalization issues    (JJR)
  • [CCT-Rep] status report    (JJS)

• Status of Protege-KIF project work    (JJT)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (JJU)

• UBL liaison report    (JJV)

• SICoP liaison report    (JJW)

• NCOR relationship - pending    (JJX)

• Planning team report    (JJY)

• UpperOntologySummit - organizing committee report    (JJZ)

8) project work session / discussion - Beginning of Year Planning for Ontolog -- to be postponed to the next membership conference call    (JK0)

• SWOT Analysis - see BobSmith's chart: http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/Ontolog-planning/Ontolog_Plans--BobSmith_Q1-2006_1a.doc    (JK1)
  • strengths    (JK2)
  • weaknesses    (JK3)
  • opportunities    (JK4)
  • threats    (JK5)

• initiatives for this year    (JK6)

• action plans    (JK7)

9) New project proposals - no discussion    (JK8)

10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion    (JK9)

11) Other business - no discussion    (JKA)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (JKB)

• next call will be on Thu 2006-02-22 starting at 10:30 am PST - NicolaGuarino will be speaking on "Making basic ontological choices: the DOLCE experience." - see: ConferenceCall_2006_02_02 ... see you there. RSVP!    (JKC)
• the 4th Semantic Technology for eGoverment conference will be in session the following Thursday - shall we skip our regular call that week?    (JKD)
• this call adjourned 11:51 am PST    (JKE)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim / 2006.01.26-11:54 am PST    (JKF)