[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-07-21 (DYO)
Conference Call Details (DYP)
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-07-21 (DYQ)
- Agenda Comments: (DYR)
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (DYS)
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting (DYT)
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (DYU)
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_07_21 (DYX)
- Date: Thursday, Jul. 21, 2005 (DYY)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock (DYZ)
- Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour (DZ0)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (DZ1)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (DZ2)
Attendees (DZ3)
- Attended: (DZ4)
- Expecting: (DZ5)
- MonicaMartin (E20)
- ...(add your name here)... (DZ6)
- Regrets: (DZ7)
- SteveRay (see input on meeting time below) (E1Y)
- PaulKoch (E22)
- DuaneNickull (E23)
- JamesDouma (E2D)
Agenda Ideas (DZ8)
Agenda & Proceedings (DZ9)
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda (DZA)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (DZC)
3) Roll-call of participants (DZE)
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future) (DZG)
- Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis): (DZH)
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months (DZO)
- August 11, 2005 - JimHendler from the University of Maryland will be doing a "Semantic Web Q & A" with the Ontolog community - see: ConferenceCall_2005_08_11 (DZP)
- Candidate Sep. 2005 session(s) - we could probably do either one or both: (DZQ)
- Sep. 8 (or day within that week) -- candidates - ElisaKendall (Peter), BarrySmith (Bill) (probably for Oct.2005 too) (E2S)
- JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad / SusanTurnbull) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session - Susan: the 2005.09.23 CEW on implication on governance ... would be ideal. [Kurt will follow up with Jon and Susan] (DZR)
- possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event (suggested: SusanTurnbull / 2005.03.03) (DZS)
- SusanTurnbull/2005.07.20: draft title for Sept. 23, 2005 (Friday) Collaborative Expedition Workshop is: "Governance and Procurement Readiness Challenges in Future Services Oriented Architecture: Leveraging the Data Reference Model" (E28)
- PeterYim / SusanTurnbull: let's aim at doing a 2-hour joint CEW-Ontolog session on Fri 2005.09.23 1:30~3:30pm EDT / 10:30am~12:30pm PDT (E29)
- Peter will follow-up with Kurt (E2T)
- BillMcCarthy suggested John Sowa (try, either Sep. 1 or 6, 2005) - Bill will write John about this (DZT)
- Bill: haven't started to contact John yet; maybe we could try BarrySmith before John (E2U)
- future candidates speakers: (DZU)
- DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim) (DZV)
- NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAndersen or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy) (DZW)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull) (DZX)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse) (DZY)
- other suggestions: (DZZ)
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim) (E00)
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group (E02)
- Rex suggsted we should also invite UDDI and XMDR people, and possibly to have all three parties (regrep, uddi & xmdr) on a panel (E03)
- JimSpohrer from IBM Almaden Services Research (further to the 2005.06.30 discussion) (E04)
- Rex suggestion: Professor Asuman Dogac from Middle East Technical University (Ankhara, Turkey) on Healthcare Ontologies in ebXML Web Services under their Artemis Project (E05)
- Professor Dogac's work has also been previous recommended by BrandNiemann - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/TowardCoherenceInKnowledgeThroughAllThingsOntological_MakingSenseTogether_2004_12_09#nid6NZ (E06)
- Peter also suggested that we should invite Dieter Fensel to talk to us some time (E07)
- Bill: one more suggestion BarrySmith (E2V)
- Peter: PatHayes, ElisaKendall, DeborahMcGuinness (E2W)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months (E08)
- DavidWhitten: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events. (E09)
- no discussion session for July 2005 (E0A)
- August 25, 2005 discussion session - moderator: RexBrooks - subject: Healthcare Informatics (E0B)
- candidate panelists: BobSmith, MarkMusen, MarcWine, DavidWhitten, ChrisChute, ... people from within and without the community (E0C)
- Rex and Bob will have a phone conference to work out some of the details (E2Y)
- Peter to set up a skeleton session page, Rex will fill in the content (E2Z)
- more work/discussion on OWL (E0D)
- Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful (E0E)
- NicolasRouquette -- topics lined up? (E0F)
- Rex: possibility of working with Duane on a follow-up (E0G)
- WSMO (Web Service Modeling Ontology), and possibly also, SWSF (Semantic Web Services Framework) - as proposed by DuaneNickull / NicolasRouquette / PeterBrown - ref. thread that started with http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00017.html (E0H)
- candidate panelists: (E0I)
- John Domingue of the Knowledge Media Institute at the Open University in the UK, who presented in Innsbruck - suggested by PeterBrown - http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-06/msg00039.html (E0J)
- reference: John Domingue's slides from the presentation at the recent W3C workshop on frameworks for semantics in web services, available at: http://www.w3.org/2005/04/FSWS/Submissions/1/wsmo_v10.pdf (E0K)
- WSMO WG website - http://www.wsmo.org (E0L)
- SDK cluster - 3 fairly large EU-based project (E0M)
- currently lots of funding in Europe for semantic web work (and funding in US has just ended), therefore expecting new work to come from Europe (E0N)
- three different viewpoints now - OWL/S, SWSI - FLOWS, and WSMO viewpoints - probably a bit early to talk about standardization (E0O)
- let's work with John Domingue toward a Oct 2005 panel discussion, with the 3 above viewpoints represented (E0P)
- John: will do ... but don't expect consensus at the end of the session ... (we understand) (E0Q)
- ref. our 2005.06.30 discussion session, MichaelGruninger (who has been working on FLOWS and SWSF) indicated that this will be a session he will like to participate in too. (E0R)
- suggest NicolasRouquette to be our moderator for this session (E30)
- we will not schedule a technical discussion in Sep. 2005 (E31)
- candidates for November, 2005 (E32)
- Rex: propose "Emergency Response" (E33)
- Kurt: we should revisit "CCTS ontology" for Nov. (even Sep.) - we'll talk to Duane again if he shows up next week; if he doesn't Kurt, will ping Duane. (E34)
- Anders: we should have a "Tools / Testing" discussion (E37)
- Kurt: "on metamodels, independent of the representation" (at a level that allows us to avoid the language war) (E38)
- Bob: as a segway into things like pi-calculus, etc. (E39)
- candidate panelists: (E0I)
- Upcoming Events of interest (E0S)
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues (E0V)
- Regular call time revisited: - will discuss in this session - ref: RegularConferenceCall (E0W)
- open discussion in progress (comments invited); will deliberate after end June 2005 (allowing W3C SWBPD to decide on their regular call time first. (E0X)
- MichaelGruninger also indicated last week (during the 2005.06.30 session) that our Thursday call time conflicts with that of the SWSF WG call schedule too. (E0Y)
- SteveRay/2005.07.18 - "Input on alternative Ontolog meeting times: I would be able to attend at least some of the Ontolog meetings if they were held on any of: Monday, Tuesday or Friday PM. Cheers, Steve" (E1W)
- consensus is to keep the current time for now (sorry, Scott, Steve & Michael; let's see what else we can do ... =ppy) (E3B)
- Bob and Nicolas will work on the ontological lessons learned in this exercise (E3C)
6) Follow-ups from previous calls (E0Z)
- Note of thanks to AndersTell for presenting a wonderful synthesis of the eBusiness collaboration and ontological landscape (E10)
- call/meeting to be scheduled with UN/CEFACT-CCTS WG to review Ontolog's comments [attn: DuaneNickull - ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10#nid5JB] (E11)
- possible meeting/call to follow-up with UDEF folks to review Ontolog's comments (suggested by MikeDaconta) [attn: DuaneNickull] (E12)
7) Current Project Status Report (E13)
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work - item skipped (E14)
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) (E15)
- Formalization issues (E16)
- UBL Liaison update (E17)
- [CCT-Rep] status report (E18)
- Status of Protege-KIF project work (E19)
- status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work (E1A)
- UBL liaison report (E1C)
- SICoP liaison report (E1D)
8) project work session / discussion (E1G)
- VistA-Ontolog collaboration potential: (E1H)
- Open Source set-aside contract (1 of 6) - ref RexBrook's post: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-07/msg00006.html (E1I)
- we'll hope to get some progress in Rex's discussion session in Aug. 25, 2005 (E3G)
9) New project proposals (E1J)
- Brand suggests we work with Rex Brooks to review the Broadstrokes group pilot, from an ontologists perspective (E1K)
- Rex, Bob, Peter to talk this over after the call today (E3H)
- topic map of interest; scheduling conflicts; ... etc. (E1L)
- Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP (E1M)
- Bob: we could bring this up at our planning session (E1N)
- potential new project with Nicolas, Bob and Kurt leading (E1O)
- See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologDiscussion/TaggingForumForMatchingInterestsWithinCompatibleSchedule (E1P)
- Nicolas: complementary activities between Ontolog and SICoP (E1M)
10) Sponsorship and funding - ITEM SKIPPED (E1Q)
11) Other business (E1R)
12) Next meeting date and adjourn (E1S)
- call adjourned 11:50am am PDT (E1T)
- next call will be on Thu 2005.07.28 starting at 10:30 am PDT (E1U)
-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim ppy / 2005.07.21 11:51 am PDT (E1V)