ConferenceCall 2005 05 05

[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-05-05    (CDP)

Conference Call Details    (CDQ)

• Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-05-05    (CDR)

• Agenda Comments:    (CDS)
  • ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items.    (CDT)
  • please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting    (CDU)
  • VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/    (CDV)
    • view-only password: "ontolog"    (CDW)
    • view-and-control pw: to be supplied during session as needed    (CDX)
  • Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_05_05    (CDY)
• Date: Thursday, May. 05, 2005    (CDZ)
• Start Time: 10:30 AM PDT / 1:30 PM EDT World Clock    (CE0)
• Expected Call Duration: 1 ~ 1.5 hour    (CE1)
• Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada)    (CE2)
• Participant Access Code: "686564#"    (CE3)

Attendees    (CE4)

• Attended:    (CE5)
  • DuaneNickull    (CI5)
  • PeterYim    (CI3)
  • KurtConrad    (CIH)
  • AdamPease    (CIF)
  • NicolasRouquette    (CI4)
  • MonicaMartin    (CII)

• Expecting:    (CE6)

• Regrets:    (CE7)
  • BobSmith    (CIC)
  • JamesDouma    (CID)
  • ChrisMenzel    (CIE)

Agenda Ideas    (CE8)

Agenda & Proceedings    (CE9)

1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda    (CEA)

• PeterYim took the chair and welcomed everyone.    (CEB)

2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes    (CEC)

• PeterYim volunteered    (CED)

3) Roll-call of participants    (CEE)

• see above    (CEF)

4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future)    (CEG)

• Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis):    (CEH)
  • member regular meeting    (CEI)
  • invited speaker session    (CEJ)
  • scheduled discussion    (CEK)
  • project review    (CEL)
  • workshop / work session    (CEM)
  • planning    (CEN)

• Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months    (CEO)
  • Thu 2005-05-12 - MarkGreaves from DARPA - "Future of Semantic Web Technologies at DARPA" - confirmed    (CEP)
  • Thu 2005-05-26 - MonicaMartin from Sun Microsystems - confirmed    (CEQ)
  • Thu 2005-06-16 - DavidWhitten & ChrisRichardson from WorldVistA - Thu 2005-06-16 - confirmed (-ppy)    (CER)
  • Thu 2005-07-14 - AndersTell from Business Collaboration Toolsmiths, AB (Sweden) - suggested by DuaneNickull - confirmed    (CG8)
  • future candidates speakers:    (CES)
    • LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull)    (CET)
    • SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse)    (CEU)
    • DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim)    (CEV)
    • NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy)    (CEW)
  • new suggestions:    (CEX)
    • a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim)    (CEY)
      • possibly teaming up with SICoP and their CUO-WG; after independent sessions on Cyc and DOLCE    (CEZ)
    • Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group    (CF0)
    • JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session    (CF2)
      • possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event - Jun.2005? (SusanTurnbull)    (CF3)
  • new suggestions:    (CF5)
    • Jim Hendler (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)    (CG9)
    • Tim Berners-Lee (--suggested: Duane/2005.05.03)    (CIJ)
    • Pat Hayes (--suggested: ppy/2005.05.03)    (CGA)

• Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months    (CF6)
  • David: maybe we should designate a moderator, and then coordinate the event from there, in a fashion similar to speaker events.    (CF7)
  • see: OntologDiscussion    (CF8)
  • more work/discussion on OWL    (CF9)
    • Adam: need OWL & SWRL for OWL ontologies to really be useful    (CFA)
  • Nicolas: becoming clear that discussions on reasoning would be useful    (CIK)
    • Nicolas: Grit and Denker at SRI has just release a OWL/S editor for Protege-OWL - having them come to join in the discussion will be great    (CIL)

• Recent & Upcoming Events of interest    (CFC)
  • eGov: Collaborative Expedition Workshop #40 - Tue 2005-05-17 - attendance in person at the National Science Foundation (Ballston, VA) or by remote dial-in. Please RSVP to Renee.hughes@gsa.gov if you plan to join us.    (CGD)
    • see details at: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExpeditionWorkshop/BuildingDiscernmentAcrossCommunities_SeeingThroughComplexityTogether_2005_05_17    (CGE)
  • Stanford Clinical Informatics seminar series; events on 5/6; 5/13; 5/20 & 5/27/2005 - see: http://clinicalinformatics.stanford.edu/scci_seminars/2004-05.html    (CFD)
    • In particular, MarkMusen will be speaking on Fri 2005.05.27 (was 2005.04.22 - note change of date) on "The Role of Ontologies in the Electronic Health Record."    (CFE)
  • Monica: was at the OASIS Symposium last week, quite a bit of talk about ontologies - look out for the availability of some of those presentations (Monica will make posts about them when she sees something relevant.)    (CIM)
    • interest and awareness is rising    (CIN)
    • slides from the symposium are now available at http://www.oasis-open.org/events/symposium_2005/proceedings.php (--Monica / 2005.05.11)    (CJN)

5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues    (CFF)

• change of the regular Thursday conference call time - only 2 people suggested a change - disposition?    (CGB)
  • Nicolas: accomodating the W3C SWBP participants should be attempted    (CIO)
  • consider accomodating European attendance    (CIP)
  • Kurt: let's bring this up at the planning committee    (CIQ)
  • Peter: people need to feel strongly enough to make a post about it and propose something    (CIR)

• Job opening(s) available - how about a "Job Openings" or "Classified Ad" page on our wiki that we allow talent searchers looking for ontologists (and related expertise) to make short posts themselves? t/b discussed - reviews pros and cons. (--ppy/2005.04.27, idea from an email he received from someone who is searching for the 'perfect ontologist'.)    (CGC)
  • Nicolas: can we setup a semantic filter to discern and block abusers -- this could even be a discussion topical    (CIS)
  • Nicolas: try to be aware of the legal implications too    (CIT)
  • Kurt: let's take it up at planning    (CIU)

6) Follow-ups from previous calls    (CFH)

• wonderful discussion last week - vote of appreciations to NicolasRouquette!    (CI6)
  • what worked?    (CI7)
    • Peter: it's been great    (CIV)
    • Kurt: glad they are captured in an audio archive ... that is really helpful    (CIW)
  • what needs improvement?    (CI8)
    • Nicolas: could improve on getting the prep material ready earlier ... and to "get to know" the participants before the session    (CIX)
    • too few people are paricipating real time    (CIY)
    • Kurt: we could go around have people set expectations and requirements    (CIZ)
    • Peter: more lead time, invite people who could seed the discussion with subject experts (and have them do a few minutes overview of their work)    (CJ0)

7) Current Project Status Report    (CFK)

• Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work    (CFL)
• Status of Protege-KIF project work    (CFQ)
  • Kurt gave a short debrief on the work session at SMI on Mon 2005.04.25    (CJ1)
  • lesson: practice is quite different from theory (not that this is anything new)    (CJ2)

• status of NHIN-RFI & Health-Ont project work    (CFR)
  • see Brand's report to the NHIN-RFI review team - http://web-services.gov/nhinrfiontology04052005.ppt    (CFT)

• UBL liaison report - no report    (CFU)

• SICoP liaison report    (CFV)
  • note the new setup of the ONTAC-WG - see: http://colab.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?SICoP/OntologyTaxonomyCoordinatingWG    (CJ3)

• status report from Planning team    (CFW)
  • planning team session today? (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologPlanning_2005#nidC3D)    (CIG)
  • Kurt: rescheduling the meeting ... will have to be after 2005.05.17    (CJ4)
  • Peter: I will be out of town between 5/17~5/22/05    (CJ5)

8) project work session / discussion    (CFX)

9) New project proposals    (CFY)

• starting a wikipedia-like effort on this wiki - champion needed: David? (--proposed:ppy/2005.05.05_07:05_PDT)    (CI9)
  • start with putting stubs on key terms, and an initial explanation or definition (and leave out the latter)    (CIA)
  • maybe even kif axioms eventually, who knows    (CIB)
  • Kurt: let's take this up on planning    (CJ6)
  • Peter: we can link over to wikipedia (and other wikis') content now through our wiki's InterMap feature    (CJ9)
  • Peter: Champion solicted - once we have a champion, the chances of getting the project off the ground increases dramatically!    (CJ7)

10) Sponsorship and funding - no discussion    (CFZ)

11) Other business - no discussion    (CG0)

12) Next meeting date and adjourn    (CG1)

• call adjourned 11:46am PST    (CG2)
• next call will be on Thu 2005.05.12 starting at 10:30am PST    (CG3)
  • it will be the talk by MarkGreaves from DARPA - see: ConferenceCall_2005_05_12    (CJ8)

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 minutes captured in real time on this wiki by PeterYim
 ppy / 2005.05.05_11:48_PDT    (CG4)