[ontolog] Member Conference Call - Thu 2005-03-10 (5GI)
Conference Call Details (5GJ)
- Subject: [ontolog] member conference call Thu 2005-03-10 (5GK)
- Agenda Comments: (5GL)
- Note that this is a regular weekly call. The BillMcCarthy talk has been moved to Mar. 17, 2005. See: ConferenceCall_2005_03_17 (5GM)
- ... build rapport; ... sync up; ... distribute, assign or arbitrate virtual ownership of tasks; ... and use it to deal with emergencies. ... plus, member suggested agenda items. (5GN)
- please post any suggested agenda items to the call wiki page and upload any material to be shared to the list, to the wiki or by WebDAV upload prior to the meeting (5GO)
- VNC session (if needed) will be started 5 minutes before the call at: http://vnc2.cim3.net:5800/ (5GP)
- Wiki page for this call (i.e. this page) is at: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_10 (5GS)
- Date: Thursday, Mar. 10, 2005 (5GT)
- Start Time: 10:30 AM PST / 1:30 PM EST World Clock (5GU)
- Expected Call Duration: 1 hour (5GV)
- Dial-in Number: 1-702-851-3330 (Las Vegas, Nevada) (5GW)
- Participant Access Code: "686564#" (5GX)
Attendees (5GY)
- Attended: (5H6)
- Expecting: (5H7)
- Regrets: (5H8)
- DuaneNickull (on a plane during this time) (5H9)
- PaulKoch (5HA)
- MonicaMartin (traveling in Europe, again) (5HB)
- PeterBrown (schedule conflict) (5HC)
- JamesDouma (schedule conflict) (5HD)
- MichaelUschold (5HE)
- AndreCharland (5HF)
- BrandNiemann (5HG)
Agenda Ideas (5HH)
- Discussion whether we could/would do a workshop at this year's Protege International Conference - July 18~21, 2005, Madrid, Spain (5HI)
Agenda & Proceedings (5HK)
1) Welcome & confirmation of agenda (5HL)
2) Appointment of secretary to take minutes (5HN)
3) Roll-call of participants (5HP)
4) Upcoming meeting & event schedule (near future) (5HR)
- Nominal meeting types (on a monthly basis): (5HS)
- Invited Speaker Schedule for the next 3~6 months (5HZ)
- for Mar. 2005 - BillMcCarthy from MSU - Thu 2005-03-17 (note re-scheduled, was 3/10) - confirmed (suggested by MonicaMartin & PeterYim) (5I0)
- for Apr. 2005 - MichaelUschold from Boeing - Thu 2005-04-21 - confirmed (-ppy) (5I1)
- for May. 2005 - MonicaMartin from Sun - Thu 2005-05-12 - pending date confirmation (5I2)
- for Jun. 2005 - DavidWhitten from VA - Thu 2005-06-16 - confirmed (suggested by ChrisRichardson) (5I3)
- future candidates speakers: (5I4)
- LarryReeker of NIST (suggested by SusanTurnbull) (5I5)
- SimonBuckinghamShum of the Compendium Institute ( ? ; ref. post from ScottLHolmes & PeterYim's reponse) (5I6)
- DougLenat on the Cyc project (suggested by PeterYim) (5I7)
- NicolaGuarino on DOLCE, possibly also BillAnderson or ChrisWelty (suggested by PeterYim & PatCassidy) (5I8)
- new suggestions: (5I9)
- a panel with speaker representating: SUMO, OpenCyc Upper Ontology, DOLCE, ... (suggested by PeterYim) (5IA)
- Monica: suggest inviting someone from the [regrep] group (5IC)
- Mark Greaves of DARPA - suggested by NancyFaget and PeterYim (5ID)
- Doug Whall from the IC - suggested by BrandNiemann (5IE)
- JonBosak of Sun on OASIS Process - suggested (KurtConrad) at our 2005.03.03 Planning Session (5IF)
- possibility of this rolling into a joint SICoP or CEW-multiple CoP Best Practice event - Jun.2005? (SusanTurnbull) (5IG)
- AndersTell of Business Collaboration Toolsmiths, AB (Sweden) - suggested by DuaneNickull (5IH)
- In view of the great line-up of wonderful speakers, and the strong feedback that our speaker sessions (and the recordings) have really been useful to the community, we could consider doing speaking sessions twice a month - one on the regular Thursdays, and the other on a Monday, Tuesday or Wednesday (outside of the regilar call day) so that people (speaker or audience) who has a standing conflict on Thursdays could be accomodated too. (--suggested by KurtConrad) (5II)
- Scheduled Discussions for the next 2 months (5IJ)
- Upcoming Events of interest (5IK)
- Ongoing (today is last day): A number of Ontolog members were presenting at the Semantic Technology Conference 2005 (March 7~10, 2005, San Francisco, ref: http://www.semantic-conference.com/ ) (5IL)
- Those presenting includes: BobSmith,KurtConrad, BoNewman, AdamPease & RalphHodgson (...did I miss anyone? -ppy) (5IM)
- See: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum//ontolog-forum/2005-03/msg00013.html & (5IN)
- if presentations are non-commercial (and especially if the Ontolog Forum is featured), members are welcomed to share their presentation here (on the Ontolog workspace.) (5IO)
- Adam and Kurt will post their slides or the link to the conference sites, if slides are going to be hosted there (5IP)
- Mar. 15, 2005 at the National Science Foundation (Ballston, VA; remote participation also) - SusanTurnbull et al's Collabortive Expedition Workshop #39, entitled: "Toward a National Unified Geospatial Enterprise Architecture: Seeing the Way Forward Together". (5IQ)
- Ongoing (today is last day): A number of Ontolog members were presenting at the Semantic Technology Conference 2005 (March 7~10, 2005, San Francisco, ref: http://www.semantic-conference.com/ ) (5IL)
5) Communications, logistics, & work protocols issues (5IT)
- moving in depth code/tools related discussions to the [ontolog-dev] list (5IU)
- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontolog-forum/2005-03/msg00017.html (5IV)
- agree that PeterDenno and AdamPease will move their SUO-KIF validator discussion over to [ontolog-dev] (5IW)
- PeterYim will subscribe PeterDenno and AdamPease, and will make a post announcing this, and invite people to subsrcibe themselves to the [ontolog-dev] list if they are interested in in depth code/tools related discussions (5IX)
- Adam also suggested to PeterDenno that if the conversation is pertinent to SIGMA-kee to cross post to the sigma-kee list at sourceforge too. (5IY)
6) Follow-ups from previous calls (5IZ)
- Planning Session follow-ups (5J0)
- ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ConferenceCall_2005_03_03#nid052 (5J1)
- Kurt suggested that we should "projectize" the planning function, and solicited interest from members to join the "planning" committee that could start with, say, 3~4 people (5J2)
- Kurt and Peter volunteered. Kurt will also check to see if BobSmith would be interested. Anyone else interested should contact Kurt about it. (5J3)
7) Current Project Status Report (5J4)
- Status CCT-Representation and UBL-Ontology project work (5J5)
- Requirements issues (ref: http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UseCases) (5J6)
- Formalization issues (5J7)
- UBL Liaison update (5J8)
- [CCT-Rep] status report (5J9)
- (5JA)
- still need to follow-up on the UN/CEFACT call [attn: DuaneNickull] (5JB)
- PeterDenno was at the UN/CEFACT meeting at DC, but did not have a chance to discuss this (5JC)
- still need to follow-up on the UN/CEFACT call [attn: DuaneNickull] (5JB)
- NHIN-RFI Response status and follow-ups (5JF)
8) project work session / discussion (5JI)
- PeterDenno - new tool for validating SUO-KIF (5JJ)
- It tests for things like ... (structural checks) ... (domain assertion) ... (5JK)
- Adam: suggesting that PeterDenno also take a look at what is already available at the SIGMA diagnostics page (5JL)
- Nicolas: how about Sparkle - a query processor. Adam / PeterD - SUMO is not translatable into N3 (5JM)
- Adam: my new quote (from the conference yesterday) is, "the terms mean what the axioms say they mean ... no more, no less." (5JN)
- BillMcCarthy - coordinating with co-author Guido Geerts on next week's presentation (5JO)
9) New project proposals (5JT)
- need an update from the ORBS (Ontolog Review of Boooks and Stuff) candidate project (5JU)
- Bill also asked what Adam and Kurt thought about the Semantics in Business Systems (by Dave McComb) book, which they were supposed to get a copy of at the Semantic Technology Conference. (5JV)
- Both replied that they did not get a copy at the conference, and therefore, cannot make a comment about it. (5JW)
- Bill and Nicolas also talked a bit more, and decided that they would take the discussion offline (they will continue the discussion over the phone tomorrow.) (5JX)
- Bill also asked what Adam and Kurt thought about the Semantics in Business Systems (by Dave McComb) book, which they were supposed to get a copy of at the Semantic Technology Conference. (5JV)
10) Sponsorship and funding (5JY)
- no discussion (5JZ)
11) Other business (5K0)
- Bill and Peter asked Adam and Kurt for a synopsis of the Semantic Technology Conference that they were just at. (5K1)
- (5K2)
- Adam: there were (5K3)
- academic/funded people like - DougLenat, JimHendler, NatashaNoy, AdamPease etc. (5K4)
- business consultants like - Unicorn, Topquadrant, ... (5K5)
- a couple of VC's (5K6)
- users, like Merck (using taxonomies, ...) , ... (5K7)
- good part of the audience are people who wants to find out more (5K8)
- Kurt: (5K9)
- agree with Adam; there is a lot of focus in using semantics to work better with databased assets (5KA)
- Both felt interests were high from the audience in what they are doing. (5KB)
- Adam: there were (5K3)
- (5K2)
12) Next meeting date and adjourn (5KC)
- call adjourned 12:33 PST (5KD)
- next call will be on Thu 2005.03.17 starting at 10:33am PST (5KE)
- that will be BillMcCarthy's talk on: "The Integration of an Accounting Domain Ontology (REA) with an Upper Ontology (SUMO)" (5KF)
-- minutes captured in real time on this wiki by: PeterYim / 2005.03.10 12:36pm PST (5KG)