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Re: [uom-ontology-std] What is mass?

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From: "Martin S. Weber" <martin.weber@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:56:02 -0400
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ravi sharma wrote:
> Ed
> I am glad that the nature of mass is not entering this discussion and we 
> are limiting ourselves to objects (things) such as quantity, units, 
> measures, and others, as well as algorithmic or rules based conversions 
> and other transformations (as a parallel - I am probably seeing these 
> akin to metadata). These alone are not trivial as seen by dozens 
> of submissions on this topic since yesterday.
>  
> SI, VIM, UCUM, and what else (?) ought to be the minimum set of concepts     (01)

UCUM contradicts (SI = VIM) because it explicitely drops kind-of-quantity and 
uses terms to have a different, non-SI/VIM/BIPM meaning. Furthermore as has 
been said both in the teleconf as well as on the list, UCUM doesn't consider 
dimensionless things. Per UCUM you can happily always compare an angle to a 
count. "Why not. They're both dimensionless. And sometimes it might even make 
sense" [Or, in UCUM terms: L/L / 1 ~ 1  <=> L/L ~ 1 <=> L/L and 1 have the 
same dimension <=> L/L and 1 differ only by their magnitude [if not equal] 
(UCUM 3.§19)] which clearly contradicts what VIM states.    (02)

I try not to judge on that here. I'm just pointing out that UoM cannot have 
SI&VIM and UCUM as an applied concept at the same time, as they are 
contradictory.    (03)

-Martin    (04)

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