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Re: [uom-ontology-std] uom-ontology-std - strawman UML

To: uom-ontology-std <uom-ontology-std@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Matthew West <dr.matthew.west@xxxxxxxxx>
From: Pat Hayes <phayes@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:55:26 -0500
Message-id: <268EDE81-E8BC-4AA2-873C-40C6EE274F06@xxxxxxx>

On Aug 6, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Matthew West wrote:    (01)

> Dear Ingvar,
>
>> Pat Hayes wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is not what is meant, if I understand the 'trope'
>>> language. Take a concrete case, a measurement of length in meters  
>>> and
>>> two identical sticks A and B, with exactly the same length. There is
>>> one property here, called "length", which applies to both sticks and
>>> produces the same value in each case, say 3.1 meters. So: two  
>>> sticks,
>>> one property, one length value of that property.
>>
>> I think the solution is to accept the existence of both properties  
>> and
>> tropes (property instances). So: two sticks, one property, two  
>> property
>> instances, one length value of that property that are instantiated
>> twice.
>
> [MW] That of course would not do for a 4 Dimensionalist. There is no
> spatio-temporal extent separate from that which has the property  
> that can be
> the trope.    (02)

Hmm, you mean, for a strict spatiotemporal-extensionalist 4- 
dimensionalist.    (03)

Pat :-)    (04)


>
> Regards
>
> Matthew West
> http://www.matthew-west.org.uk/
>
>
>>
>> Ingvar Johansson
>>
>>
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