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Re: [oor-forum] FW: [Fwd: BioPortal 2.5 Released]

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From: "Obrst, Leo J." <lobrst@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:47:29 -0400
Message-id: <0111C34BD897FD41841D60396F2AD3D304B92627AF@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Yes, I was just forwarding an interesting and relevant morsel from another 
list. Potentially interesting to OOR.    (01)

Thanks,
Leo
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Dr. Leo Obrst, MITRE, Information Semantics, lobrst@xxxxxxxxx, 703-983-6770    (02)

----- Original Message -----
From: peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx <peter.yim@xxxxxxxxx>
To: John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Obrst, Leo J.; Pan, Dr Jeff Z. 
<jeff.z.pan@xxxxxxxxxx>; Elisa Kendall <ekendall@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Edward Barkmeyer <edbark@xxxxxxxx>; OpenOntologyRepository-discussion 
<oor-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed Jun 09 20:39:39 2010
Subject: Re: [oor-forum] FW: [Fwd: BioPortal 2.5 Released]    (03)

John ... I don't believe Jeff Pan, Elisa Kendall (or Ed Barkmeyer) are
subscribed to the [oor-forum] list. I'm including them now.    (04)

All: please note that John was responding to Leo's message:
http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/oor-forum/2010-06/msg00003.html    (05)

Regards.  =ppy
--    (06)


On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 5:27 PM, John F. Sowa <sowa@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Leo, Jeff, and Elisa,
>
> I went to the TrOWL web site ( http://trowl.eu/ ) and found some
> very strange comments:
>
>  > TrOWL utilises a semantic approximation to transform OWL2-DL
>  > ontologies into OWL2-QL for conjunctive query answering and
>  > a syntactic approximation from OWL2-DL to OWL2-EL for TBox
>  > and ABox reasoning.
>
> Why does that word 'approximation' pop up twice in a single
> sentence?  If you have a well-defined semantic foundation,
> all the permissible transformations are exact.
>
> Are you claiming that DL, QL, and EL have different semantics?
>
> I can understand the idea of having different levels of
> expressive power for different subsets.  But then the
> mappings between versions are just subset/superset.
>
> Why do these systems require approximations?  What is the
> point of multiple notations with a common name (OWL), but
> incompatible semantics?
>
> John Sowa
>
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