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Re: [oor-dev] Parsing Ontologies [was - Fwd: registration... oorsandbox

To: "'Peter Yim'" <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>, "'Paul R Alexander'" <palexander@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'OpenOntologyRepository-development' <oor-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: "Jim Chatigny" <jchatign@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:03:03 -1000
Message-id: <3CD6906FF7B64CAEA4B9DB1C030FBCCD@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Peter,    (01)

> One thing though .. you said " the process [of the 
> "bioportal_admin" re-parsing of COSMO ontology] did complete     (02)

Sorry I wasn't more clear... I was using our BBN OOR instance, after the
COSMO ontology got federated (copied) there from the CIM3 sandbox.    (03)

Jim    (04)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Yim [mailto:peter.yim@xxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:41 AM
> To: jchatign@xxxxxxx; Paul R Alexander
> Cc: OpenOntologyRepository-development
> Subject: Re: [oor-dev] Parsing Ontologies [was - Fwd: 
> registration... oorsandbox (v2.x)]
> 
> 
> Thanks, Jim ... allow me to defer to the NCBO folks to make 
> sense out of this, and provide us pointers on what to do next 
> (given your
> input.)
> 
> One thing though .. you said " the process [of the 
> "bioportal_admin" re-parsing of COSMO ontology] did complete 
> in a about 2 hours despite the "exception" ... I still see 
> that it shows the state of "Parse Ontology" on the 
> OOR-sandbox "Browse" screen, and I don't see that this COSMO 
> ontology can be "explore(d)" yet.
> 
> Thanks & regards.  =ppy
> --
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:20 AM,  <jchatign@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > As I was putting my slides together for Friday's telcon, I 
> happened to 
> > pick the COSMO ontology for use with a screen shot. I wanted the 
> > "visualize" link to be active, so I used bioportal_admin to 
> parse it.
> >
> > Attached is the relevant messages from the log file. (And a 
> portion of 
> > a screen shot). There was a Java exception raised during 
> the parsing, 
> > but the process did complete in a about 2 hours. Perhaps when the 
> > parser was invoked on the OOR sandbox as a scheduled (cron) 
> job, the 
> > exception cause it to abort?
> >
> > Anyway, I thought this info might be helpful.
> >
> > Jim
> 
> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Paul R Alexander [mailto:palexander@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:56 AM
> >> To: Peter Yim
> >> Cc: OpenOntologyRepository-development
> >> Subject: Re: [oor-dev] Parsing Ontologies [was - Fwd: 
> registration... 
> >> oorsandbox (v2.x)]
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter,
> >>
> >> It sounds like there was a failure at some point during 
> the ontology 
> >> parsing process, meaning that the process had started, setting the 
> >> ontology status to "Parsing", but never finished, so the ontology 
> >> status was never updated. There is a "Parsing Error" 
> status, I'm not
> >> sure why
> >> that wasn't set if a problem was encountered. I would try 
> to login to
> >> the BioPortal Admin software and trigger a re-parse on Pat's
> >> ontology.
> >> If it does encounter an error during the process, the 
> Admin UI should
> >> report that back to you.
> >>
> >> Paul
> 
> 
> >> On 2/17/10 8:41 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
> >> > Paul or Someone from NCBO who might point us in the 
> right direction 
> >> > ...
> >> >
> >> > Further to the earlier exchange with PatCassidy (below), 
> looks like 
> >> > his COSMO ontology (which Pat uploaded on 2010.02.11) is
> >> still "being
> >> > parsed" at the OOR-Sandbox (v2.x).
> >> >
> >> > (Not knowing what exactly to look for) I just went into the
> >> server and
> >> > check cpu workload on the<oor-01>  vm. To my surprise, the
> >> cpu(s) is
> >> > running at 99.5% to 100% idle. ... I do notice that 19 
> (of the 116) 
> >> > ontologies that are listed in the "Browse" page are
> >> supposed to be in
> >> > the state of "Parse Ontology." ... therefore, this doesn't sound 
> >> > right!
> >> >
> >> > ... Suggestions?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks&  regards.  =ppy
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >> > From: Patrick Cassidy<pat@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Date: Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:31 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: registration problem oor sandbox (v2.x)
> >> > To: Peter Yim<peter.yim@xxxxxxxx>
> >> > Cc: Tejas Parikh<tejas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Paul R Alexander 
> >> > <palexander@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Ken 
> Baclawski<kenb@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Obrst, 
> >> > Leo J."<lobrst@xxxxxxxxx>, Mike Dean<mdean@xxxxxxx>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On the parsing time for the new sandbox:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>> [PatC]  Any idea how long a 7000 element ontology 
> should take to
> >> >>>
> >> >> parse?
> >> >>
> >> >> [ppy]  (I'm guessing, but) I don't think anyone knows* 
> ... Please 
> >> >> make a note on how long it is taking this time for COSMO,
> >> maybe when
> >> >> you are done, you can share the experience with all of us.
> >> [ *since
> >> >> different installs are running on fairly different hardware and 
> >> >> platforms, and experiencing different work loads all the time. ]
> >> >>
> >> > The COSMO is still "parsing" after over 24 hours.  I see 
> a parsing 
> >> > error for the OWL-time ontology (didn't see that in the
> >> last version).
> >> > Who is maintaining the parser and display function?  Any
> >> thoughts on
> >> > how this can be improved?
> >> >
> >> > The "explore" function is really valuable.  I hope we can
> >> get it to be
> >> > consistently effective.  Sorry I have no programming
> >> expertise to help
> >> > out here.
> >> >
> >> > Pat
> >> >
> >> > Patrick Cassidy
> >> > MICRA, Inc.
> >> > 908-561-3416
> >> > cell: 908-565-4053
> >> > cassidy@xxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> >>
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