Dear Yuriy, (01)
With my Hackathon-Clinics facilitator hat on, I'd say: don't hesitate
to craft up a proposal if you feel strongly enough that this is
meaningful work, and will contribute to "ontology evaluation". (02)
I defer to others in the community to weigh in, and voice their level
of interest (to partner up with you) on this project. (03)
Regards. =ppy (04)
p.s. I will send you my personal take offline.
-- (05)
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Yuriy Milov <ymilov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Peter and All,
>
> Here is the points to discuss if it makes sense to be transfered into
> the hackathon proposal:
>
> Please download two sandbox ontologies:
> 1) go http://attempto.ifi.uzh.ch/webapps/acewikisandbox/ and click
> Actions: Export.. (left frame menu), a popup winow wil popup
> Choose the type of export from the list: - choose owl ontology and
> export it. It should be saved under as "sandbox.owl".
> and
> 2) http://test.feofan.com/fish.owl
>
> Please run Protege 4.1 for the "sandbox.owl". Run a reasoner (I run
> FaCT++). Protege 4.1 works for me, so if needed you may download it from
> http://protege.stanford.edu/download/registered.html
>
> Now you will need to fix "sandbox.owl" by removing two inconsistent
> axioms: just click Reasoner, Start, Explain and tab "Hot spots", then
> remove inconsistent axioms by clicking (X) on the right side
>
> Reload the "sandbox.owl" ontology, run a reasoner, go to the "DL Query"
> tab, check "Individuals" and execute query "own some animal"
> You should get 2 individuals owning animals: "Stefen_Molloy" and
> "Barack_Obama"
>
> Then load "fish.owl", run reasoner and execute query "owns some Pet" or
> "owns some {fish}"
>
> You will get a different answer - there is no "Barack_Obama" in the list :-)
>
> So, the issue is that the one or the both ontologies is not correct. How
> can we find and "fix" this "content inconsistent"?
>
> I suggest to make a tool (level, environment) to clarify WHY the answers
> are inconsistent.
>
> We may organize this evaluation process of the ontologies devoted the
> same onto domain by querying in parallel explanation queries, or we may
> put a set of queries based on the answers on previous queries - there is
> a lot of possibilities to reveal what ontology is better for us to use
> in real life. For the future development of a user friendly interface we
> may use Alicebot approach, for example - see:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Linguistic_Internet_Computer_Entity
> and use the ontologies as a backend knowledge base
>
> But for the one day hackathon event I propose to build a simple example
> how we may choose one ontology from (or make a preference for one
> ontology of) two competing ontologies in the same onto domain to get an
> answer on a query "Who owns a fish?".
>
> Is anyone interested to continue to embedded this idea in a working
> software?
>
> I will use Java (Exclipse env.) and plan to upload the project to the
> Google AppEngine server as a GWT web application.
>
> Regards
> Yuri
> --
> Regards,
> Yuriy Milov
> www.quicklydone.com
> 1-647-765-4386 (06)
> On 3/6/2013 12:03 AM, Peter Yim wrote:
>> Dear ALL,
>>
>>
>> A whole bunch of us had a very useful meeting today. See full
>> proceedings (including the audio archive and chat-transcripts, etc.)
>> under:
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2013_Software_Environments_For_Evaluating_Ontologies_CommunityInput#nid3NYL
>>
>> Please review and follow-up accordingly ...
>>
>> In particular, here's where we stand (wrt projects initially
>> identified on Feb-21):
>>
>> //
>> [7:45] PeterYim: Summary of slide#5* project status ... [*see:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2013/2013-02-21_OntologySummit2013_Synthesis-I/OntologySummit2013_hackathon-clinics-approach--MikeDean-PeterYim_20130221.pdf
>> ]
>>
>> [7:45] PeterYim: HACKATHON
>>
>> * develop/align OOR, Ontohub and OOPS! webservices/API, so that OOPS!
>> capabilities can be used on ontologies that are hosted on the OOR or
>> Ontohub ontology repository (MariaPovedaVillalon,
>> MariCarmenSuarezFigueroa, KenBaclawski, TillMossakowski, OliverKutz,
>> et al.)
>> -- Ontohub-OOPs! - ON
>> -- OOR-OOPS! - ON
>>
>> * develop/integrate "gatekeeper" functionality and API into OOR
>> workflow module to support verification, validation and other policies
>> (KenBaclawski, MaximoGurmendez, et al.)
>> -- OOR-KEEPER - ON; proposal received;
>>
>> * develop an ontology-driven OntologySummit2013 "website" on
>> OntologPSMW (MarcelaVegetti, KenBaclawski, AliHashemi, PeterYim et
>> al.)
>> -- ON - could be (a) website diagnostics or (b) website applications,
>> if website is already up by the time of the hackathon
>>
>> * develop tools (queries; psmw templates) to slice-and-dice the
>> collected Ontology-Software-Capabilities inventory data in the survey
>> (KenBaclawski, MichaelDenny, et al.)
>> -- ON (has to be after survey data is collected)
>>
>> * implementing the "General Ontology Evaluation Framework (GEOF)" as
>> SADI compliant web services (JamesMichaelis & JoanneLuciano)
>> -- ON - will turn in proposal, but looking for contributing developers
>>
>> * developing an app that will deliver Ontology Summit content to
>> mobile devices (YuriyMilov)
>> -- this one is OFF; had suggested another idea, but did not get much response
>> -- will submit a new proposal before the deadline, one related to
>> integrating two online resources:
>> http://attempto.ifi.uzh.ch/webapps/acewikisandbox/ and my test with
>> Pellet reasoner on the Google App Engine
>>
>> * developing "ontology evaluation" enhancements on the .15926 editor
>> (VictorAgroskin, AnatolyLevenchuk)
>> -- this one is OFF;
>> -- will submit an ONTOLOGY CLINIC proposal instead; will need
>> collaborators with Ontology verification and evaluation tools ... can
>> also offer collaboration infrastructure in Moscow (F2F) if needed
>>
>> ...[snip]...
>>
>> [8:08] PeterYim: Summary of slide#7* project status ... [*see:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2013/2013-02-21_OntologySummit2013_Synthesis-I/OntologySummit2013_hackathon-clinics-approach--MikeDean-PeterYim_20130221.pdf
>> ]
>>
>> [8:08] PeterYim: ONTOLOGY CLINIC
>>
>> * (A) evaluate some FIBO ontology module (MikeBennett,
>> JesualdoTomasFernandezBreis, AstridDuqueRamos, et al.)
>> -- will submit proposal by deadline, MikeBennett: need to identify
>> which ontology modules to be used in the exercise
>> -- OOPS! & OQuaRE will be the tools used for the exercise [ ... need
>> to have OOPS! folks confirm their participation]
>>
>> * (A) evaluate some eGov ontologies, like those at: (JeanneHolm et al.)
>> ** http://oegov.org/
>> ** http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/
>> ** http://lov.okfn.org/dataset/lov/details/vocabulary_cgov.html
>> -- ??? TBA (not sure at this time whether a proposal is forthcoming)
>>
>> * (B) sending BFO, DOLCE, PSL, SUMO and/or CYC through Ontology
>> Evaluation tools (like OOPS!, OQuaRE, etc.)
>> -- ON ... OQuaRE is on (so far limited to OWL supported only) [...
>> need to find out about OOPS! participation in this]
>>
>> * (new) ONTOLOGY CLINIC- COLORE
>> -- ON - proposal already received
>>
>> ...[snip]...
>>
>> [8:27] PeterYim: Summary of slide#9* project status ... [*see:
>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/file/work/OntologySummit2013/2013-02-21_OntologySummit2013_Synthesis-I/OntologySummit2013_hackathon-clinics-approach--MikeDean-PeterYim_20130221.pdf
>> ]
>>
>> [8:28] PeterYim: APPLICATION CLINIC
>>
>> * develop, evaluate and refine an ontology of "ontology evaluation"
>> based on what has transpired in Ontology Summit 2013 (MichaelDenny,
>> KenBaclawski, AmandaVizedom, et al.)
>> -- as a starter we have some "ontology" developed for the survey and the
>website
>> -- AmandaVizedom will make an attempt to articulate what could be done
>> wrt an "ontology of ontology evaluation" and why/how it would be
>> useful
>>
>> * Finance Industry Applications - EDMCouncil (MikeBennett)
>> -- TBA ... [MikeBennett will follow-up and let us know]
>>
>> * Earth Science Applications - ESIP (PeterFox/RPI), EarthCube (?), SOCoP (?)
>> -- TBA ... [JoanneLuciano will follow-up and let us know]
>> --- [posted after the meeting] this is OFF (JSL/PPY: response received
>> from PeterFox already)
>>
>> * Manufacturing / Process Industry Applications (DavidLeal)
>> -- TBA from DavidLeal
>> -- VictorAgroskin: our ONTOLOGY CLINIC proposal will be applicable to
>> this category as well
>> -- [new] JoelBender will turn in a proposal by the deadline
>>
>> * Biomedical Applications (?)
>> -- JoanneLuciano is considering putting in a proposal (from CTG Albany) - TBA
>> //
>>
>>
>> Again, note that the proposal deadline is 2013.03.08 (this Thursday)
>> ... you don't have to the proposal fully completed (gaps are
>> acceptable - just state what you need to fill them.) Anyone who needs
>> an extra day or two to turn in the proposal, please writeme
>> <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> offline ... although, we much rather have all the
>> proposals early, that way, we can have more time to tweak and merge
>> the proposals, team people up, and so on.
>>
>>
>> Please continue to discuss proposal issue, and exchange thinkings with
>> your potential collaborators via this [ontology-summit] list (please
>> prefix your subject line with {hackathon-clinic}). By the time to get
>> to work on details of the "hackathon," we will defer the discussion of
>> low-level stuff to the [ontolog-dev] mailing list (let me know too, if
>> anyone wants to get subscribed to that list too.)
>>
>>
>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>> -- (07)
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Dear ALL,
>>>
>>>
>>> From our organizing committee discussion today (as suggested by
>>> AmmandaVizedom,) we wanted to make explicit to the community, that:
>>>
>>> 1. proposals may include "unfilled" slots for proposers may want/need
>>> additional help ... in which case, please so state and describe what
>>> expertise is desired (for those "unfilled" slots.)
>>>
>>> 2. in addition to teamed-up projects, we are calling for willing
>>> contributors who are not affiliated with one of these projects to
>>> register themselves and their skills ... I have just stubbed the
>>> "OntologySummit2013_Hackathon_Clinics" page on the wiki; anyone
>>> interested is invited to sign yourself up, under:
>>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2013_Hackathon_Clinics#nid3O1R
>>>
>>> also,
>>>
>>> 3. we are soliciting sponsors for Awards / Prizes for the
>>> Hackathon-Clinics activities and challenges ... if you think your
>>> company is willing to sponsor a prize, please let us know (kindly
>>> write me <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> offline.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>> for the
>>> OntologySummit2013 Organizing Committee
>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2013
>>> -- (08)
>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Peter Yim <peter.yim@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Dear ALL,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Re: the "Hackathon-Clinics" Call for Proposal -
>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/forum/ontology-summit/2013-02/msg00056.html
>>>>
>>>> As discussed at the virtual session (earlier) today, we will have a
>>>> meeting (conference call) for all who are interested/considering to
>>>> participate in the OntologySummit2013 "Hackathon" and "Clinics"
>>>> activities next Tuesday, to answer any question people may have on
>>>> creating/submitting their proposal, and an opportunity for people to
>>>> partner up into collaborating teams. Call details as following ...
>>>>
>>>> = OntologySummit2013 "Hackathon" and "Clinics" confcall (n.04) - Tue
>>>> 2013.03.05 =
>>>>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, 5-Mar-2013
>>>> start-time: 7:00am PST / 10:00 am EST / 12:00pm ART / 4:00pm CET / 15:00
>GMT/UTC
>>>> * ref. world clock -
>>>>
>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=3&day=5&year=2013&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p1=224
>>>> Duration: ~1.25 Hrs.
>>>>
>>>> Dial-in:
>>>> Skype: "joinconference" ... PIN: 141184# ; or,
>>>> Phone (US): +1 (206) 402-0100 ... PIN: 141184#
>>>>
>>>> In-session chat-space: http://webconf.soaphub.org/conf/room/summit_20130305
>>>>
>>>> (Developing) Session details under:
>>>>
>http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?OntologySummit2013_Software_Environments_For_Evaluating_Ontologies_CommunityInput#nid3NYL
>>>>
>>>> Remarks: the session may be recorded for archival purposes. Unless
>>>> otherwise documented, participants agrees to this by virtue of their
>>>> participation at the session. Nominal Open Ontolog IPR Policy will
>>>> apply - ref. http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikiHomePage#nid32
>>>>
>>>> Talk to you then!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks & regards. =ppy
>>>> Peter P. Yim
>>>> http://ontolog.cim3.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?PeterYim
>>>>
>>>> p.s. feel free to bring up or continue discussing any question you may
>>>> have on this mailing list too!
>>>> -- (09)
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